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Congratulations to Regan Smith and DEI. May you take your claim to the Racing Commission for review and I hope you win. NASCAR needs to learn to keep themselves in check and follow their past decisions until they change the rule book and specifically change it. Personally I think NASCAR's Driver Meetings should be public record so these issues won't show up. We only know what the drivers tell us so we can't form an unbiased opinion unless we have the facts from NASCAR. So until then, NASCAR will continue to lose support for their decisions. Fans will stay but will protest everything NASCAR does because we can't trust the brain to follow their own statements.
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NASCAR needs to show consistency. Drivers, crew members, commentators and fans are BEGGING for some consistency. But we see anything but consistency. In this case, they made a rule, then made an exception, then didn't enforce the rule (Daytona truck race), then kept repeating the exception, and now have treated the exception like it doesn't exist. It's crazy, and it's detrimental to the sport.
NASCAR oughta penalize itself under "actions detrimental to stock car racing" ...
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Wouldn't that be great if the Stock Car Commission said NASCAR was WRONG!!!! Won't happen, but oh well. I don't see how they can say he wasn't forced down there. I've watched the replays and if he stayed where he was, Stewart would have been in the grass and Smith would be dropping back after he hits the brakes. I'm ready for this to be behind us. Quote:
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I'll translate Jim Hunter:
"We're going to pick & choose when we enforce our own rules and when we aren't because we wrote them ambiguously in the first place to give us that power. Allowing Smith to win over Tony would have caused an enormous PR firestorm that would have the media buzzing for weeks and Stewart possibly boycotting the sport because of his juvenile temper. These facts and more that we know all factor into our "judgment" which led our judgment to be that Tony won and Smith had to be sent back to 18th." I really want to see Johnny Benson on whatever the show on SPEED is called now, just in case he brings up his Daytona truck race where he passed under the yellow line to finish 2nd at Daytona.
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If I were Smith, I would've held the wheel straight and sent Tony spinning through the grass. Regan made a great move and got inside of Tony. That's legal and would have saved all of this controversy. I'm not a fan of either driver, but I think penalizing Regan and dropping him back to 18th is ridiculous. Regan should at worst finish 2nd. Like everyone else has said, Tony forced him below the line.
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Regan smith got robbed...plain and simple.
Mike Helton and Brian France are just tools to enable tv and advertising to make money off of names like Stewart... But now they've spoken, and let's hope they keep to their word...man how I'd love to see that rule bite them in the backside if Jr, Stewart, Johnson, Gordon, or some other big name loses the '09 Daytona 500 to someone who is virtually unknown like Smith or Dave Blaney.
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Smith won that race, no doubt about it... As said so in the drivers meeting and many times in the past "Anything goes on the last lap".
Things like this make me think why bother turning on the TV on sunday, really I'm not a NASCAR fan anymore. I really do not understand how this move is better for the sport, NASCAR lost me as a fan and probably many others. Mainly I just watch to root for my drivers (Kasey Kahne, and Jeff Gordon), I can't stand how the sport is run. Funny how Stewart complains so much of the rules in the past, but ignores them for his own gain. |
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Yes smith definitely should've won that race, but what about the rest of the finish. I was really disappointed about the finish. Not a true Talladega finish, no one really even tried to make a move until Smith. To tell ya the truth, I think that was the worst finish to a talladega race ever! Not even a bit exciting.
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I like Tony, no doubt. Congrats for his first win of the year, but gotta give Regan credit for going for it. I think he had no choice on that one. Either he's going to wreck the field or go below the yellow stripe. Either way, I hope Regan gets the funding to race next year. Not too often a potencial Rookie of the Year candidate would lose his ride the next year due to lack of funds.
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