chadden24

ok so i am using a momo force feedback wheel but when i play nr2k3 i dont use force feedback. my question is are there any settings i need to play with to make the wheel feel "not so hard to turn"?

bytor2112

Mostly the ratio setting!

the higher the number say 32:1 is like mega power steering, while a 12:1 will make ya feel like you lost your power steering belt!

here is some good momo settings:

****Taken From Set-up Guru forum*****
writen by: Fernando Rees




Logitech MOMO Force Feedback

Hi everyone,

Yesterday I took a day off - no racing. Today I'll be uploading a new replay + setup at night, but before that - I'll post now some very good tips for configuring the Logitech MOMO Force Feedback wheel. Some of you might already use something similar, but when I first tried these configurations I was so surprised by how easier and better to drive it was, and the lap times came down.

So, let's go... guess it can be still called a "quick guide".

First of all, for who's playing on Hardcore Mode. If you ever find to have your front too lose, or it's to hard to put the front of the car where you really want, might be Steering Linearity configuration. Try to drop that to 60% as a start. The main point after all is to keep it at max at 60%, never more than that. Worth a try!

Now, for everyone...

On Windows go: Start > Settings > Control Panel > Game Controllers

Double click on the MOMO wheel, and then Settings (can be found in the bottom right). Now, set this options:

Combined - unticked (means not checked box)
That will enable both pedals to work togheter, I guess everyone already did that.

Enable Force Feedback - ticked (means to check the box)
As the name says, it will allow to have Force Feedback

Overall Effects Strenght - 97%
It's better and easier to have 97% then 100%. At the same time, it is said that using it in 100% may occur oscillations during your drive.

Spring Effects Strenght - 0%
No games from Papyrus use this feature, it will just give you problems.

Damper Effects Strenght - 0%
This is a MUST. Don't ever use other value of it. It will just twitch the wheel and bring some unreal difficulties for you. Papyrus simulators don't use it either.

Enable Centering Spring - ticked (means to check the box)
That's harder to explain, but shortly what will happen using the following configurations with this box unticked is some strange forces on the wheel that will sometimes be too hard and suddently give it away.

Centering Spring Strenght - 0%
That's about the above question.

Then, done with settings here. Go open your Profiler program.

Set your Nascar 2003 settings as it follows:

Steering Wheel Sensitivity - 33%
Dropping this a little from the Default will give a better feeling and it will be easier to do any further configurations on the wheel. When using it as 50%, everything is too sensitive to any small adjustments. It will also give a more smooth drive, as you'll finally be able to in fact use your MOMO wheel radius. Normally, before that, we used around 10-15 degrees maxing - now you'll use more. In short, you'll have a more precise driving. Start using this at 33%, but you can always drop it even more if you enjoy the effect and really fits you. Until 25% is still an improvement.

Steering Wheel Deadzone - 2%
It will give a help to prevent any twichtes and oscillations when driving.

Accelerator Sensitivity - 55%
It will give a more precise acceleration, and easier as well. Sometimes, when using 50%, the car is too nervous on corner exits (mainly in Trans-Am, or CUP in road corses) - you barely press the throttle pedal and you are already losing traction. This option will help you with that.

Accelerator Deadzone - 2%
Like the steering setting, this will help you out with any over sensitive throttle. In other words, it will be easier to reach full throttle and hold it.

Brake Sensitivity - 55%
Same as with the accelerator, but now working on brakes. It will help you on a more precise braking, preventing suddently lock wheels and giving a better feeling when braking. In other words, going higher on this value gives a less immediate braking pressure.

Brake Deadzone - 2%
Just like the others.

That's it with the Profiler as well. Now go open your Nascar 2003.

Go to: Options > Controls tab

Enable the Force Feedback.
Use this setting between 35-100.
The most common value to use is 60. Although, this will change from track to track, depending on the setup you use and track configurations. Of course, that's not a fix value, you can use it however you want from 35-100 that it's OK - just find the right force for you.
The objective here is to obtain the highest force while keeping it smooth. If it's too much, drop it. If you feel it's too low, get it higher until you find it's too much and the wheel is kinda pushing you away - then you drop a little.
Smoothness is what you want here.

Leave Damping always off.
With the settings we adjusted earlier here, you won't have any oscillations that would apply a Damping setting here. So, that will be always off. In case you feel any oscillations when exiting a corner (and the Force Feedback force changes doesn't help), then you can add a little bit in here, but that's rare and I bet it won't happen. As well, never use the Damping setting in the Game Controllers settings, it will destroy your performance. If you ever feel need of it, change it inside the game, right where we are now.

Leave Latency off as well.
It will not help on anything with the configurations we setted earlier. Besides, it will give you unreal forces. If you really find that the forces are coming too late, just like when having lag or something, increase this a tick. Don't ever go for more then 20.

Well, that's it...

I hope it helps everyone - it helped me a lot.
Drive some laps, get used to the new feeling, and hunt down your lap times.

If you have any questions, doubts or impressions, post down here and I'll do my best to help you out with it.

The idea of the guide was first made by Chad Sparks. I just used my own words and feelings to re-write it and keep it here for all to read. That way, if someone has problems with it, I can try to help it out thru here.

Let's race!


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Fernando Rees

chadden24

how come every time my computer resets i have to re calaberate this wheel??

bytor2112

Hmmm. you loose your settings too?

When you boot up, does the wheel come on and turn itself a few times?

Did you download the logitech profiler? if not : http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/44...id=3916&osid=1


THIS FROM LOGITECH MAY HELP ALSO:

Issue:
Some customers may encounter a problem where the game controller appears to have lost calibration. Symptoms of this issue include

Solution:
If the device appears to be uncalibrated, simply disconnect and reconnect the game controller to the port. It is very important that when you reconnect the device the joystick(s) remains centered. If that doesn't work, try the Clear Calibration Utility (PC Only). The game controller calibration information is stored in the Windows registry and it is possible that the information is corrupt. The Clear Calibration Utility will remove this information so that the calibration information can be re-written to the registry. Please note that all calibration information will be removed including non-Logitech game controllers. This means you may have to recalibrate all controllers connected to the system. To download the Clear Calibration Utility, please go to the Logitech Downloads page and select your product.

chadden24

wow thats what i will try. yes the wheel moves a few times when i boot up. thanks for the advice....i'll get back with you as to what all happens

chadden24

i just unplugged the usb and plugged it back up and all is good. thanks!!