A vaild point...

[waltrip55]

ohhhh i love how everyone gets so offended here that my crazy sim family

 

[DPawlak]

Steve, I think you missed the mark a bit here. I wasn't giving an opinion about the game, I was talking about how it's totally possible to have an opinion about iRacing's pricing structure without having played iRacing. iRacing users can disagree, as people do when it comes from matters of opinion, but I see no reason at all why opinions about the pricing structure must pass a litmus test of some amount of gameplay to become valid.



Well first I never said I didn't enjoy iRacing. That would be kinda hard to say since I've never actually played it. Iif I do play it some day I'll let you know what I think. Thus far I'm pretty sure the only opinion I have given about iRacing is that it's simply priced too high for me and others. Again, you might think it's worth your money, but it comes down to a matter of opinion & perception.

I'm having the same kinds of discussions in another realm of fandom because Premium Annual Passes to Disneyland just got hiked up to $429. There are opinions all across the board about that, and that's totally cool. I don't have a problem when someone who doesn't go to Disneyland all that often, if ever, because they feel like that's simply too much money to spend. I can go on forever trying to say that the $429 AP is worth the money, but I'm not trying to invalidate their opinion because they haven't gone in x amount of time if at all. People make the choices they will, and life goes on.

Does that make more sense?



Well obviously the base game isn't free. I wasn't trying to imply that it was. When people talk about NR2003's being free, they're referring to all the free downloads on the 'net that bring a 2003 game mostly up to speed with 2009.



Why? Papy deliberately made NR2003 as customizeable a mod-able as they did because they intended for the sim community to make stuff that would extend its life through the duration of the EA contract. No NASCAR Racing game was as easy to make stuff for as NR2003 was. Not NR2, NR3, NR4, or NR2002. When NR2003 came out, people were almost beside themselves about all the new possibilities. Those are facts. Where's the ludicrousness?



Oh, but you imply it every chance you get. From demeaning NR2003 itself to implying that anyone who'd choose it over iRacing is some Neandertal who out of stupidity would pass on iRacing for the NR2003 dinosaur, you consistently hammer it home over & over again, and it's just unnecessary. You win more flies with honey than you do vinegar. If you believe iRacing is the better game, fine, but as I said, there's no reason at all to piss on everyone else's NR2003 parade because YOU don't like it anymore.

You're an honorable man. You have in my eyes the same kind of diligence as a captain going down with his sinking ship. For that I admire you. I shall do as you desire.

dave

 

[Bulldog34]

Sounds like this game was created to constantly suck money from hard working peoples pockets.Personnally I would rather spend this money that you guys are spending on this game on more important things such as my kids. The cost of living is so high these days I really don't see this game being all that big regardless of the hype. I would never spend that kind of money on something as stupid as a game. I don't care how great it might be. I like NR2003 and will continue to paint cars for this game.

 

[marcusl26]

You're entitled to spend your money as you wish, just as anyone who wishes to pay for iRacing is entitled to as well. Last time I checked people are entitled to spend there hard earned money any way they wish. Starting a debate about it really doesn't provide anything beneficial. If you don't believe iRacing is worth the money to you then don't pay for it, but if iRacing can provide a fun factor great enough that someone feels it is worth the money than that should be fine too.

If someone wants to spend thousands of dollars on classic cars, motorcycles, paintball, video games, or anything else than they have every right too. Those people have every right to spend any amount of money they want on whatever they want and iRacers should be able to do that in peace without having to justify themselves for indulging in a fun hobby as much as they want.

In the end we all love to sim race. Maybe we should all start appreciating the hobby instead of criticizing those who prefer to indulge in the hobby at different levels. If you don't like the price of iRacing compared to other sims than maybe you should start complaining about the price of ECCI's and Frex's compared to Wingman GP and MOMO wheels. In the end it's the same argument, how much one person is willing to spend compared to others based on varying fun factors of the sim racing hobby. Debating about it never brings anything good out of the topic.

You like NR2003, I like iRacing. You can focus on the differences in those two statements or you can choose to focus on the similarities, which is we both like sim racing.

/rant off I guess.

 

[John Gregorio]

I've always looked at it in the most simplest way. You spend money on a hobby because you enjoy doing it and it makes you happy. You don't look for a return on your money and you are not worried about what your hobby costs. Sim racing is just that, a hobby that we pay for and expect no return expect the fulfillment of happiness. iRacing is no different than the price of most hobbies.