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"Air Traffic Controller Suspended After Letting Kids Direct Traffic at JFK"

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Ok, here's why it's wrong.

An emergency could happen at any time. Air traffic controllers are responsible for thousands of public lives each & every day. This is not a responsibility to be taken lightly, and that's exactly what the father of the kid was doing. He was taking his responsibility far too lightly. ATC can be the easiest job in the world 99% of the time, but we never know when the next real emergency will happen, and it could have happened when the kid was in the tower. To me, that's simply not acceptable. The fact that a parent who's an air traffic controller was so complacent to think that this is a good idea is amazing to me.
 

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Ok, here's why it's wrong.

An emergency could happen at any time. Air traffic controllers are responsible for thousands of public lives each & every day. This is not a responsibility to be taken lightly, and that's exactly what the father of the kid was doing. He was taking his responsibility far too lightly. ATC can be the easiest job in the world 99% of the time, but we never know when the next real emergency will happen, and it could have happened when the kid was in the tower. To me, that's simply not acceptable. The fact that a parent who's an air traffic controller was so complacent to think that this is a good idea is amazing to me.

Here is the thing, he wasn't ATC, he wasn't GTC either, the father is pretty much just the middle-man between Ground Control & Air Control. Basically when the plane is sitting at the end of the runway waiting for the Green Light, the person comes on the radio and says "Good luck now instead of talking to GTC we're switching you over to ATC".


Before 9/11 and the "Wussification of America" that followed, this kind of thing used to be common-place. Hell ask your parents about Police Ride-alongs.... Back in the day you basically could just get in the car and go for one, but now-a-days you need to sign a bizillion release forms before you can even touch the cop car.
 

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Fisha695 said:
Before 9/11 and the "Wussification of America" that followed, this kind of thing used to be common-place. Hell ask your parents about Police Ride-alongs.... Back in the day you basically could just get in the car and go for one, but now-a-days you need to sign a bizillion release forms before you can even touch the cop car.

You call it wussification, I call it progress. Child endangerment isn't a game, nor is endangerment of the public, but that's just my opinion.
 

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Fisha695,exactly what do you know about back in the day's??
 

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You call it wussification, I call it progress. Child endangerment isn't a game, nor is endangerment of the public, but that's just my opinion.

Let me guess when you played sports as a kid there were no winners or losers, everybody got the same medal for participation, right?

People need to stop coddling their kids, they need teach them that you're not always gonna win, and that there are a hell of a lot of times where you're gonna get hurt or hurt somebody.
 

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Sorry about that. I didn't know, total apology on my part.
 

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Let me guess when you played sports as a kid there were no winners or losers, everybody got the same medal for participation, right?

People need to stop coddling their kids, they need teach them that you're not always gonna win, and that there are a hell of a lot of times where you're gonna get hurt or hurt somebody.

Winning/losing has nothing to do with putting children & the greater public at risk by taking children, who adults on the job & on the clock are responsible for, into workplaces such as an air traffic control tower or a police squad car.

If Jeff Gordon took his daughter with him in the race car and secured her with all the safety mechanisms from here to the moon, you would say that's ok, right?
 

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Winning/losing has nothing to do with putting children & the greater public at risk by taking children, who adults on the job & on the clock are responsible for, into workplaces such as an air traffic control tower or a police squad car.

How was anybody in anymore risk then they normally were? Oh that's right they weren't.



If Jeff Gordon took his daughter with him in the race car and secured her with all the safety mechanisms from here to the moon, you would say that's ok, right?

Yes I would say that's ok. Hell his racecar going 200mph is still safer then your passenger car going only 5mph.
 

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How was anybody in anymore risk then they normally were? Oh that's right they weren't.

Yes I would say that's ok. Hell his racecar going 200mph is still safer then your passenger car going only 5mph.

Neither one of these statements has any factual basis behind it. You're simply going off vague assumptions.

To say that no one, including the child, or any member of the public was not more at risk is completely ignoring the obvious, as is the theoretical situation of Gordon's daughter being put in the race car. There's no possible way a racecar going 200mph is safer than my car at 5mph. None.
 
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