Danica 4th...

[ainttellinu]

Hello peeps, All you people that are ragging on Danica showed she could drive with the big guns...She was a lap down and was able to pull it up and finish 4th due to her and her crews fuel strategy that some of the others kinda took for granted...

 

[Clutch]

If she can do it consistently in her next couple of starts whenever they may be, I'll give her the credit she deserves.

I'm not going to let 1 good run change my opinion. Otherwise we could say that David Gilliland's run at Daytona in the Cup series was a sign that Front Row is here to compete for wins.

 

[GoJeffGordon24]

Well I'm proud of her, but was I the only one who was sick of hearing her name every ten seconds when it comes to Nationwide racing? I mean, even back last year when she was running, like, 24th and they're saying "She doing a great job driving the car."

just my two pennies.

 

[aww96]

Yes, it seems like she's the headline of nns. That's ALL they talk about.

But, if she can consistently get top 10s or top 20s, without DNFS, then I'll consider her talents and not call this 4th place finish a fluke. 5 more Top 10's and I'm convinced she's proven she can really race.

 

[dalejrgamer]

Even a blind squirrel can find his nuts once in a while.

That is all.

 

[DB2403]

Like I said, this will, unfortunately, be as big as Bayne winning the 500. She hasn't changed my mind. She finished 4th because there were 13 cars on the lead lap and because others had to pit.

 

[dalejrgamer]

It's really not, it's just the media praising her like she's the second coming of Jesus Christ or something like that.

Besides, I didn't watch the Busch Series race due to me not caring about the series anymore.

 

[denyerfan]

I dont agree that she lucked that one.

She managed to stay on the lead lap when the others didn't. She did drive pretty well.

However - having said that - the competition in the NNS is WOEFUL at the moment - 15 guys could get a top 10 - the rest are just running around pretending to be NASCAR drivers (which they are, but they're there to just have a run)

If she was racing in 2006 - when there were almost no start and parkers and dead last was only 2 or 3 laps down - she'd be in the 30's every week.
I mean look at this race for example that I watched the other day - 2006 Kroger 200 Benefiting Riley Hospital for Children - Racing-Reference.info

37th is only 2 laps down at ORP - she'd have no chance back then.

 

[fatcatracing]

I love how they are all saying 4th is the best finish for a woman in NASCAR.

Shawna Robinson won 3 NASCAR Goody's Dash Series races in the 80's.

Best finish for a woman in the Nationwide series: As far as I know yes.
In all of NASCAR: No

I'm sure if you tore into the Whelen local series stuff there are probably some female winners there too.

 

[RP Motorsports]

If she can do it consistently in her next couple of starts whenever they may be, I'll give her the credit she deserves.

I'm not going to let 1 good run change my opinion. Otherwise we could say that David Gilliland's run at Daytona in the Cup series was a sign that Front Row is here to compete for wins.

I agree there needs to be consistency, but I'd say that 14th, 17th, and 4th is a pretty good start considering she ran around 30th pretty much all of last season.

As far as Gilliland's run, its kinda apples and oranges. He did it in a plate race. Its pretty much a lottery. You can go from worst to first back to worst back to first in a matter of 10 laps, if that many. With Danica, it was a race in which you have to get the car handling good and pick cars off one by one over the course of a run. I just think they were entirely different situations.

I love how they are all saying 4th is the best finish for a woman in NASCAR.

Shawna Robinson won 3 NASCAR Goody's Dash Series races in the 80's.

Best finish for a woman in the Nationwide series: As far as I know yes.
In all of NASCAR: No

I'm sure if you tore into the Whelen local series stuff there are probably some female winners there too.

They wernt saying it was the highest finish by a female in NASCAR, they were saying it was the highest finish by a female in NASCAR's top three touring series, meaning Truck, Nationwide, and Cup, which it was.



I'll just say this about the whole subject - The Danica deal is alot like the Earnhardt Jr. deal. Because of the situation (or name), it garners alot of attention from the media/fanbase. Alot of fans have an issue with a driver receiving alot of attention if they arent winning, and they direct their displeasure with the situation towards the driver. Those two arent asking for all that attention. Not only that, but they'd rather NOT have the attention. All kinds of pressure and expectations get put on Dale Jr.'s shoulders because of his last name and because of the attention he receives being the most popular driver. Its not his fault and he's not asking for it. I think that with Danica its a similar deal. Its a unique situation having a big name female racing in NASCAR, and again, it garners alot of attention that some fans resent. Because of that, they direct their displeasure or resentment towards Danica, or maybe sometimes arent willing to give her the credit she deserves. Just like Dale Jr, shes not asking for the attention. If you're harboring any displeasure or resentment for the whole deal, it should be with the media/broadcasting , not Danica herself. I just think some people have trouble separating the two and end up hating on her because of all the attention she gets.

As far as the Vegas race, even without the fuel mileage situation, she wouldve finished 10th. It wasnt a situation where she was running around 30th all day and then all of a sudden everybody needs fuel and she ends up 4th. From the start of the race she was passing cars. At one point, she went a lap down for a couple runs, but still passed cars and got herself in position to get the lucky dog. After getting back on the lead lap (I believe she restarted around 21st) she continued to pass cars and drove her way up into the top 10. The fuel mileage deal didnt even come into play until about 10-15 to go when guys started coming in and she was already running 10th at that point. The fuel mileage luck took her from 10th to 4th with about 10 to go, so again, even without it she wouldve finished 10th which is pretty damn good.

I know some people want to start driving the excuse train all over the place but it is what it is.

"There were only 14 cars on the lead lap", - yea and...? What difference does that make? If anything, that makes her run that much better because she was able to run fast enough, pass cars, and stay on the lead lap while the leader was lapping cars at a fast pace.

Everything else, "the competition isnt that good", "six years ago it was tougher to race", and all of that, its all pretty much nonsense as far as I'm concerned. As the old saying goes - should've, could've, would've. Its just like when people make statements about "if it was the old points system" or "if it was the old cars", and things of that nature. I've said it before, its not about what might've happened if something else happened that didnt happen. Its about what IS. We might as well re-write the whole history book talking about "what if". "What if Richard Petty did this", "what if Dale Earnhardt hadnt passed", "what if this driver was in different equipment" blah blah blah. Its not reality.

Bottem line, is it time to anoint Danica a legit good stock car driver? No, probably not, but shes on the right track. She has improved considerably since last season and these last couple races are proof of that, especially the Vegas race. She put together a great run by almost anybodys standards given the situation and lack of experience. I just think some people should give her the credit she deserves and not let that judgement be clouded by an over-zelous media/broadcast.

-Ryan

 

[undedavenger]

Hello peeps, All you people that are ragging on Danica showed she could drive with the big guns...She was a lap down and was able to pull it up and finish 4th due to her and her crews fuel strategy that some of the others kinda took for granted...

Yeah, well, Michael Waltrip and Derrike Cope have won the Daytona 500, so what. Consistency is the word, and I still don't think she has it.

Also noticed she wasn't hyper-aggressive yesterday, and it helped. If she'd get over herself, she'd be a much better driver.

 

[DannyM]

The only way I'll be convinced that she can drive will be if she contends to win at least one race. That's alot to ask for, but she's in a winning race car. Put Scott Wimmer in the car, and he'll crank out top 5's left and right.

 

[RP Motorsports]

The only way I'll be convinced that she can drive will be if she contends to win at least one race. That's alot to ask for, but she's in a winning race car. Put Scott Wimmer in the car, and he'll crank out top 5's left and right.

Danica has run 16 races in a stock car, not even a full season, how many has Wimmer run?

-Ryan

 

[darth_decar]

Danica 4th

I have to say that I agree with PR Motorsports; because she is such a high profile driver, she has been garnering a lot of attention that some people resent.

As for my own opinion of the situation, I think this will be the year that we find out whether her future is with NASCAR or not. Her contract will be up this year, and Indycar seems to be on the decline, so she may choose to make the move to fulltime NASCAR racing. And with time I'm sure she could become a great NASCAR driver.

And if she does decide to make the switch, I'll be pulling for her.

Go number 7! Go Jr. Motorsports

 

[Carl Robinson]

The matter of the fact is that Danica in her 14th start kept her composure unlike usual and listened to eury and cranked out a top 4 finishing because of that and strategy those are undeniable facts so chill about the "SHE DIDNT DO IT HER CREW DID" Because she just could've easily panicked been over aggressive and wrecked...but I feel until she is on the right track/learning curve to get to a point where she will finish insde the the top 15 top 10 often

 

[DannyM]

Danica has run 16 races in a stock car, not even a full season, how many has Wimmer run?

-Ryan

Who cares, bro? He's better. He deserves a ride.

 

[RP Motorsports]

Who cares, bro? He's better. He deserves a ride.

Well it sounded like you were insinuating that Danica should be able to crank out top 10's and 5's in JR Motorsports equipment because Wimmer can.

Reguardless though, in case you're not up to speed with it, in this day in age its not all about whos more deserving. You think Kevin Conway was deserving of a full time Cup ride? Its about who can bring in the money to fund a program. Right, wrong, agree, or disagree, thats the way it is.

In addition to that, JR Motorsports' goal isnt to put the best driver available in a car. If that was the case, they would rotate Cup drivers in and out. Their goal is to develope new/younger talent. Also, just for the record, Wimmer does have a ride - #40 Key Motorsports...bro...

-Ryan

 

[AntmanB]

Just for the Record, She probab;ly would have gotten a top 10 anyways.

 

[RP Motorsports]

Just for the Record, She probab;ly would have gotten a top 10 anyways.

That is correct. She was running 9th with 10 to go. As I said before, the fuel mileage deal took her from 9th to 4th. So without it, it still would've been a 9th place finish.

-Ryan

 

[Clutch]

I still say proof of the pudding is in the eating. If she can eventually run for top-5s and wins on a somewhat regular basis, I'll jump ship and say she's less talk more walk.