Jimmie Johnson penalized

[4WideRacing]

Maybe I'm biased but I don't see why Jeff Gordon would need to get driver points taken away for this if he had nothing to do with the illegal posts. Owner points I totally get, but...really?

He didn't get driver points taken away. Jimmie lost 25 driver points and Jeff lost 25 owner points for the #48 team but it doesn't affect Jeff as a driver or the #24 team.

 

[ValvolineMan]

I don't see Chad and Jimmie being together much longer, if Chad keeps getting caught breaking the rules he won't be in the sport much longer. I think he'll be promoted to Director of Competition by the end of the year.

 

[4WideRacing]

I don't see Chad and Jimmie being together much longer, if Chad keeps getting caught breaking the rules he won't be in the sport much longer. I think he'll be promoted to Director of Competition by the end of the year.

That way all 4 of the teams can get in trouble. XD It depends on how the #48 runs without him on the pitbox, if they run better with him back at the shop they may leave him there.

 

[canadienhits]

In my opinion Chad Knaus probably knew about them car the minute is was rolled onto the truck and sent to daytona. I am happy that the NASCAR officials caught him before he could actually run the car in the race. One can only winder what would have happened if he would have won the race and then it was found in the post race inspection.

Of course he knew, he most likely came up with the modification. And that's why NASCAR has pre-race inspections. IF the 48 would have made it through qualifying inspections, Duels inspection, and pre-race inspection and not got caught, he wouldn't have gotten any more taken away than has been already.

 

[canadienhits]

That way all 4 of the teams can get in trouble. XD It depends on how the #48 runs without him on the pitbox, if they run better with him back at the shop they may leave him there.

Chad will still have a job, because Rick Hendrick is old school racing, and he knows you have to bend the rules once in a while. He likes those who take the lead. For Chad leaving, I'd be more worried with his arguing with JJ in the past two years. As we seen from Happy, you get rid of your crew chief in situations like that. And if Chad goes on the market, other teams will pick him up. Why, because they know he's always looking for the grey areas for an advantage. He's not going to be thrown out of NASCAR for cheating a few times, when two guys who were pretty good at it are up in the FOX booth.

 

[Justin Stelzer]

I don't think Chad's going to have to worry about his job any time soon. The guy won five championships in a row! If there is anyone in NASCAR that has pretty good job security, I'd say it's him

 

[SimDesigners]

I don't think Chad's going to have to worry about his job any time soon. The guy won five championships in a row! If there is anyone in NASCAR that has pretty good job security, I'd say it's him

Ditto. And part of his job, like every other crew chief, is to push the rules and gain the maximum advantage he can over the rest of the field. Doing that occasionally puts you on the wrong side of the line though.

And honestly, it shouldn't be any surprise that probably every team is cheating in one way or another, anyway.

 

[4WideRacing]

Chad will still have a job, because Rick Hendrick is old school racing, and he knows you have to bend the rules once in a while. He likes those who take the lead. For Chad leaving, I'd be more worried with his arguing with JJ in the past two years. As we seen from Happy, you get rid of your crew chief in situations like that. And if Chad goes on the market, other teams will pick him up. Why, because they know he's always looking for the grey areas for an advantage. He's not going to be thrown out of NASCAR for cheating a few times, when two guys who were pretty good at it are up in the FOX booth.

I wasn't talking about him being out of a job, I was talking about him bring promoted to something like Director of Competition where he stays at the shop making sure all the cars are getting done correctly.

 

[canadienhits]

That way all 4 of the teams can get in trouble. XD It depends on how the #48 runs without him on the pitbox, if they run better with him back at the shop they may leave him there.

I wasn't talking about him being out of a job, I was talking about him bring promoted to something like Director of Competition where he stays at the shop making sure all the cars are getting done correctly.

I tried doing multi quote on your response to the other quote but I wasn't able to. I think after four years here, it's the only button I don't know how to use.

 

[Janitor Dave]

Knaus has the best job security in the garage, maybe even more so than his driver, Jimmie. Yes, even with all the red marks on his record (although that, to me, gives him more job security since he's willing to do anything to win, and no race team would be stupid enough to let a guy like him go).

As for people saying he might want out of being a crew chief, I don't think Chad would screw over the #48 team like that. Then again, I might be wrong.

I tried doing multi quote on your response to the other quote but I wasn't able to. I think after four years here, it's the only button I don't know how to use.

I see you've gotten it, but for future reference: click multi-quote on all but one of the posts you want to quote. Click quote on the last one. Yes, it still works even if you leave the current page. I hope that clears it up a bit.

 

[BillyJack79]

Knaus' job is safe. What he's doing, right or wrong, is being done in effort to get better results. Hendrick is no saint himself. Remember, while he was battling leukemia in '98, he was on house arrest for mail fraud. Read this.... Rick Hendrick: As crooked as they get. YotaMeister18′s Blog I don't agree with every opinion in this blog, but it is full of things Hendrick would like to be forgotten.

 

[ModSquadRacing]

And honestly, it shouldn't be any surprise that probably every team is cheating in one way or another, anyway.

This is the part that I think alot of people dont realize. Every team out there is trying to figure out ways to push the envelope, or in other words, cheat. And its been going on since the beginning of time. As the saying goes "If you aint cheating, you aint trying".

The only reason Chad stands out is because he trys to think outside the box and push things a little further. For every illegal tweak hes gotten caught for, theres probably just as many he hasnt gotten caught for. And thats part of what makes him such a good crew chief.

Unfortunally for him and the team, he got caught with something significant this time. He had the bottom of the C-posts flared out to reduce drag, and he thought he might be able to sneak it through because the area wasnt a hard point on the template. For NASCAR, thats at the top of the list of no-no's. You dont mess with the motor, chassis, or body. He(They) took that chance and got caught and now have to deal with the reprecussions.

 

[MattSRD28]

The only reason Chad stands out is because he trys to think outside the box and push things a little further.

That, and he's a 5-time champion crew chief.

 

[canadienhits]

Like I said, as a Jimmie Johnson, Chad Knaus, 48 fan...I can live with the fine, penalty, suspension....

(And remember how this sport came about anyways...moonshiners, and that's illegal too LOL)

 

[DannyM]

It"s hard to cheat in nascar anymore. Chad Knaus is the master of the gray area,maybe the gray area is turning more into black area!!!!!

 

[BillyJack79]

From Jayski.com

National Stock Car Racing Appeals Panel Statement - Penalty Upheld: On March 13, 2012, the National Stock Car Racing Appeals Panel heard and considered the appeal of the #48 Hendrick Motorsports NASCAR Sprint Cup Series team. The penalties concern Section 12-1 of the NASCAR Rule Book "Actions detrimental to stock car racing;" Section 12-4(J): "Any determination by NASCAR Officials that the Race Equipment used in the Event does not conform to NASCAR rules detailed in Section 20 of the NASCAR Rule Book, or has not been approved by NASCAR prior to the Event;" and Section 20-2.1(E): "If in the judgment of NASCAR Officials, any part or component of the car not previously approved by NASCAR that has been installed or modified to enhance aerodynamic performance, will not be permitted: Unapproved car body modifications."
This stemmed from an opening day inspection for the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series at Daytona International Speedway on February 17, 2012.
The original penalties assessed prior to the deferral were:
- Car Owner (Jeffrey M. Gordon)  Loss of 25 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Car Owner points;
- Car Driver (Jimmie K. Johnson)  Loss of 25 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Driver points;
- Crew Chief (Chad A. Knaus) - $100,000.00 fine. Suspended from the next six (6) NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Events. Suspended from NASCAR until April 18, 2012. Placed on NASCAR probation until May 9, 2012.
- Car Chief (Ron P. Malec) - Suspended from the next six (6) NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Events. Suspended from NASCAR until April 18, 2012. Placed on NASCAR probation until May 9, 2012.
Upon hearing the testimony, carefully reviewing the facts and historically comparative penalties, the unanimous decision of the National Stock Car Racing Appeals Panel (John Capels, Leo Mehl, Dale Pinilis and Ed Bennett: Appellate Administrator and non-voting member) was to uphold the original penalties assessed by NASCAR. The Appellants have the right under Section 15 of the Rule Book to appeal this decision to the National Stock Car Racing Chief Appellate Officer.(NASCAR)
Hendrick Statement..appeal continues Hendrick Motorsports will request a hearing before the National Stock Car Racing chief appellate officer to continue its appeal of NASCAR sanctions related to the #48 Sprint Cup Series team. "The panel was generous with its time today, and we appreciated the opportunity to talk through our concerns," said Rick Hendrick, owner of Hendrick Motorsports. "We feel strongly about this issue and will continue to pursue it at the next level." Adjustments to #48 team personnel are not planned while the appeal is ongoing.(HMS)(3-13-2012)

 

[Sgt Slaughter]

Well that's the end of that!!

 

[4WideRacing]

I don't know which side I'm on for this. If it was truly the same why did it "fail" this time but not last year? What is the next level?

 

[ShadowKnight508]

Well, looks like Jimmie will be without Knaus and Malec for the next six weeks, unless the Chief Appellate pulls a major change of decision regarding this.

 

[4WideRacing]

Well, looks like Jimmie will be without Knaus and Malec for the next six weeks, unless the Chief Appellate pulls a major change of decision regarding this.

From Jayski.com
"We feel strongly about this issue and will continue to pursue it at the next level." Adjustments to #48 team personnel are not planned while the appeal is ongoing.(HMS)(3-13-2012)

Not until the appeal is truly over.