Kobalt Tools 500 Race Discussion

[MattSRD28]

ok, i was wondering why it was merged in here.

Well seeing as we already had a general race discussion thread, a thread regarding one of the race's storylines was superfluous. Nothing wrong with discussing Carl, but we make these catch-all threads each week just so we don't have 9 different race threads talking about 9 different race storylines. Eases the clutter.

-- DF28

 

[Mike24]

Kyle Busch runs away for the Truck win: NASCAR.COM - Busch pulls away from Hornaday to win at Atlanta - Mar 8, 2008




FIN ST CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR PTS/BNS LAPS STATUS
1 3 51 Kyle Busch Toyota Miccosukee Resort & Gaming 190/5 130 Running
2 1 33 Ron Hornaday Chevrolet Camping World
/ RVs.com 180/10 130 Running
3 12 5 Mike Skinner Toyota Toyota Tundra 170/5 130 Running
4 15 88 Matt Crafton Chevrolet Energizer / Menards 160/0 130 Running
5 2 8 Chad McCumbee Chevrolet Malcolmson Construction 160/5 130 Running
6 5 2 Jack Sprague Chevrolet American Commercial Lines 155/5 130 Running
7 4 59 Ted Musgrave Toyota Team ASE / Harris Trucking 146/0 130 Running
8 6 60 Terry Cook Toyota wyler.com 142/0 130 Running
9 7 30 Todd Bodine Toyota Lumber Liquidators 138/0 130 Running
10 16 21 Jon Wood Ford The Barnhill Group 134/0 129 Running
11 19 14 Rick Crawford Ford Power Stroke Diesel by International 130/0 129 Running
12 14 99 Erik Darnell Ford Northern Tool + Equipment 132/5 129 Running
13 8 18 Dennis Setzer Dodge Melling Engine Parts 129/5 129 Running
14 11 9 Justin Marks * Toyota Crocs 121/0 129 Running
15 24 10 Brendan Gaughan Ford International Maxx Force Diesel 118/0 129 Running
16 17 22 Phillip McGilton * Toyota Three Wide Life 115/0 129 Running
17 20 16 Brian Scott * Chevrolet Shark Energy Drink / Albertson's Supermarket 112/0 129 Running
18 22 09 Travis Kvapil Ford Zaxby's 109/0 129 Running
19 10 4 Stacy Compton Dodge Landmark Dodge 106/0 129 Running
20 25 71 Donny Lia * Chevrolet TRG Motorsports 103/0 128 Running
21 21 11 David Starr Toyota Red Horse Racing 100/0 128 Running
22 23 7 Andy Lally * Chevrolet TRG Motorsports 97/0 128 Running
23 29 15 Marc Mitchell * Chevrolet Ergon Hyprene 94/0 128 Running
24 31 08 Jason White Dodge Gunbroker.com 91/0 128 Engine
25 26 40 Chad Chaffin Chevrolet Key Motorsports 88/0 128 Running
26 18 13 Shelby Howard Chevrolet ThorSport Racing 85/0 128 Running
27 28 46 Scott Speed Chevrolet Red Bull 82/0 127 Running
28 9 6 Colin Braun * Ford Con-way Freight 79/0 126 Running
29 27 20 Scott Lagasse Jr. Ford Nicholson Group 76/0 125 Running
30 13 23 Johnny Benson Toyota Toyota Certified Used Vehicles 73/0 110 Running
31 30 07 Shane Sieg Chevrolet ASI Limited 70/0 76 Running
32 32 0 Butch Miller Chevrolet ASI Limited 67/0 3 Overheating

 

[Mike24]

Kenseth takes advantage of Kyle Busch's misfortune en route to the win: NASCAR.COM - Kenseth holds off Harvick in green-white-checkered - Mar 8, 2008



FIN ST CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR PTS/BNS LAPS STATUS
1 10 17 Matt Kenseth Ford Arby's 190/5 198 Running
2 6 33 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Camping World
/ RVs.com 175/5 198 Running
3 1 29 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Holiday Inn / Holiday Inn Express 170/5 198 Running
4 3 60 Carl Edwards Ford Scotts Miracle-Gro 165/5 198 Running
5 27 21 Bobby Labonte Chevrolet Richard Childress Racing 155/0 198 Running
6 17 88 Brad Keselowski Chevrolet U.S. Navy 150/0 198 Running
7 11 22 Mike Bliss Dodge Supercuts 146/0 198 Running
8 8 38 Jason Leffler Toyota Great Clips 147/5 198 Running
9 7 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Hellmann's 138/0 197 Running
10 5 99 David Reutimann Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine 134/0 198 Running
11 20 59 Marcos Ambrose Ford Kingsford Hickory Charcoal 130/0 198 Running
12 26 47 Kelly Bires Ford Clorox 127/0 198 Running
13 13 16 Jamie McMurray Ford CitiFinancial 124/0 198 Running
14 31 111 Jason Keller Chevrolet America's Incredible Pizza Company 121/0 198 Running
15 9 5 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Nat'l Guard / 48th Infantry Brigade Combat Team 118/0 198 Running
16 12 6 David Ragan Ford Discount Tire 115/0 198 Running
17 19 7 Mike Wallace Toyota GEICO 112/0 197 Running
18 29 66 Steve Wallace Chevrolet Atreus Homes & Communities 109/0 197 Running
19 4 2 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet BB&T 111/5 197 Running
20 15 77 Cale Gale * Chevrolet Rheem 103/0 197 Running
21 23 37 Greg Biffle Ford Cub Cadet 100/0 197 Running
22 16 32 Brian Vickers Toyota ABF U-Pack Moving 97/0 197 Running
23 14 25 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Ford Curly's 99/5 197 Running
24 2 20 Kyle Busch Toyota Farm Bureau Insurance 101/10 197 Running
25 32 36 Kenny Wallace Dodge Shark Energy Drink 93/5 197 Running
26 25 1 Johnny Sauter Chevrolet Miccosukee Resort & Gaming 90/5 197 Running
27 33 161 Kevin Lepage Ford Specialty Racing 82/0 196 Running
28 24 40 Dario Franchitti * Dodge Fastenal 79/0 193 Running
29 18 41 Bryan Clauson * Dodge Polaroid 76/0 187 Off Track
30 28 64 David Stremme Chevrolet Atreus Homes & Communities 73/0 186 Running
31 36 28 Brian Keselowski * Chevrolet Jay Robinson Inc. 70/0 185 Running
32 21 4 Robert Richardson, II Chevrolet Reel Deal "Card Games" on Phantom EFX 67/0 185 Running
33 30 24 Eric McClure Chevrolet Hefty 64/0 179 Off Track
34 34 81 D.J. Kennington Dodge Mahindra Tractors / NPPL 61/0 177 Running
35 22 27 Brad Coleman Ford Cottonelle BKB / Kroger 58/0 168 Running
36 37 05 Brett Rowe Chevrolet 31-W Insulation / CertainTeed 55/0 135 Out of Race
37 38 52 Derrike Cope Chevrolet Means Racing 52/0 42 Out of Race
38 40 90 Johnny Chapman Chevrolet MSRP Motorsports 49/0 28 Out of Race
39 41 91 Larry Gunselman Chevrolet MSRP Motorsports 46/0 24 Out of Race
40 42 84 Mike Harmon Chevrolet M150 Energy Drink 43/0 23 Out of Race
41 39 89 Morgan Shepherd Dodge Victory In Jesus 40/0 19 Out of Race
42 35 01 Kertus Davis Chevrolet RaceGirl 37/0 11 Out of Race
43 43 0 Dwayne Leik Chevrolet Lori Morgan 34/0 8 Out of Race

 

[jaqua99]

Well seeing as we already had a general race discussion thread, a thread regarding one of the race's storylines was superfluous. Nothing wrong with discussing Carl, but we make these catch-all threads each week just so we don't have 9 different race threads talking about 9 different race storylines. Eases the clutter.

-- DF28

OO Gotcha yea that makes sense. ITs more organized

 

[jaqua99]

carl's transmition breaks after having the best car... im not going to say what i want to say:arghh:

 

[DE3]

Toyota's 1st Cup win

Well it happened ever quicker than I thought, only the 4th race in.

And a 1-2 finish to boot...

Congrats Toyota.

 

[JSwanson88]

Congrats to Kyle. I really hoped Jr would have had a better car at the end, but 3rd aint too shabby!

 

[Flatout24]

I'm glad who won the race won it (I won't say who) I loved that paint scheme too!!!

 

[Jason Roush]

Well I knew it was going to be a Gibbs car, I thought Tony would have been the one but he did come in second.

 

[Mike24]

Very impressive win for Kyle. Though, he was pushing it a little too hard at the end. There was no need for him to be all over Jarrett's bumper on the last lap. He could have taken himself out.

 

[DE3]

I'm pumped about how well Jr's going!

I sure hope Jr. can keep this momentum up!
He's the strongest of the Hendrick cars so far.

 

[RaceLine]

A couple of comments on the race today.

-Carl Edwards had what looks like 3 in a row if not for engine problems.

-Congrats to Kyle on the win, he had a strong car and deserved the Win.

-Poor choice of topics on Stewart’s part during the post race interview. I thought it in poor taste to whine about the tires and not even mention Joe Gibbs 1-2 finish or his teammates Win! (should I be surprised?)

-Also glad to see JR remaining consistent, just wish he would get that monkey off his back and WIN one!

-As for Kyle getting up on Dale, get that dang brown truck out of the friggin way for God’s sake! Why hold up the leader? :arghh:

 

[Flatout24]

Exactly that was really weird for jarret to be racing him so hard. Still is awesome that kyle won. really happy to see Gordon finish the race just a stroke of bad luck on every other race so far. One thing that has left me wondering is WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO JIMMIE JOHNSON??:shocked: what a difference from last year

 

[Mike24]

I don't think it was DJ racing Kyle hard, as much as it was Kyle wanting to win by the biggest margin possible. He did not have to even pass Jarrett with the lead he had built up. He could have cruised the last few laps.


With the JG/JJ thing that you refered to Flatout24, I think, unfortunately, that this is what we will get this year. They won't be untouchable. Hendrick bringing Jr. in really threw off the chemistry of that race team. Anyone else wondering why Jr.'s running way better than the other guys? Hendrick is trying to show that he can make Jr. win, and Jeff, Jimmie and Casey are suffering from it, taking a step down from where they were last year. Meanwhile, Gibbs is eating it up because Kyle, Denny and Tony make for great chemistry, and Gibbs isn't focusing on any one of them.

 

[Mike24]

FIN ST CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR PTS/BNS LAPS STATUS
1 6 18 Kyle Busch Toyota Snickers 195/10 325 Running
2 32 20 Tony Stewart Toyota Home Depot "10 Years Strong" 170/0 325 Running
3 2 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet AMP Energy / National Guard 170/5 325 Running
4 13 16 Greg Biffle Ford Jackson Hewitt 165/5 325 Running
5 1 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont 160/5 325 Running
6 7 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet DIRECTV 155/5 325 Running
7 8 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil 146/0 325 Running
8 38 17 Matt Kenseth Ford DEWALT 142/0 325 Running
9 35 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull 143/5 325 Running
10 15 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet AT&T Mobility 134/0 325 Running
11 29 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite 130/0 325 Running
12 5 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge Cheerios / Betty Crocker 132/5 325 Running
13 11 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's / Kobalt Tools 124/0 325 Running
14 12 12 Ryan Newman Dodge ALLTEL 121/0 324 Running
15 22 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Ground 118/0 324 Running
16 19 42 Juan Montoya Dodge Wrigley's Big Red 115/0 324 Running
17 39 5 Casey Mears Chevrolet Kellogg's / CARQUEST 112/0 324 Running
18 28 66 Scott Riggs Chevrolet State Water Heaters 109/0 324 Running
19 20 15 Paul Menard Chevrolet Energizer / Menards 106/0 324 Running
20 30 00 David Reutimann Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine 103/0 323 Running
21 3 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker 100/0 323 Running
22 10 8 Mark Martin Chevrolet U.S. Army 97/0 323 Running
23 14 6 David Ragan Ford AAA 94/0 323 Running
24 26 7 Robby Gordon Dodge Valvoline / Jim Beam 91/0 323 Running
25 33 77 Sam Hornish Jr. * Dodge Penske Truck Rental 88/0 323 Running
26 9 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Budweiser 90/5 322 Running
27 42 28 Travis Kvapil Ford Zaxby's 82/0 322 Running
28 43 44 Dale Jarrett Toyota UPS 79/0 322 Running
29 34 84 Mike Skinner Toyota Red Bull 76/0 322 Running
30 31 38 David Gilliland Ford FreeCreditRep
ort.com 73/0 321 Running
31 23 40 Dario Franchitti * Dodge Fastenal 70/0 321 Running
32 16 22 Dave Blaney Toyota Caterpillar 67/0 321 Running
33 27 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA AUTO PARTS 64/0 321 Running
34 25 41 Reed Sorenson Dodge Target 61/0 321 Running
35 37 96 J.J. Yeley Toyota DLP HDTV 58/0 320 Running
36 41 01 Regan Smith * Chevrolet DEI / Principal Financial Group 55/0 320 Running
37 17 78 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing 52/0 320 Running
38 21 10 Patrick Carpentier * Dodge Cintas 49/0 320 Running
39 36 70 Jeremy Mayfield Chevrolet Haas Automation 46/0 318 Running
40 24 26 Jamie McMurray Ford IRWIN Industrial Tools 43/0 317 Running
41 40 45 Kyle Petty Dodge Paralyzed Veterans of America 40/0 313 Running
42 4 99 Carl Edwards Ford Aflac 42/5 274 Out of Race
43 18 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge Best Buy / Garmin 34/0 257 Out of Race

 

[DE3]

I don't think it was DJ racing Kyle hard, as much as it was Kyle wanting to win by the biggest margin possible. He did not have to even pass Jarrett with the lead he had built up. He could have cruised the last few laps.


With the JG/JJ thing that you refered to Flatout24, I think, unfortunately, that this is what we will get this year. They won't be untouchable. Hendrick bringing Jr. in really threw off the chemistry of that race team. Anyone else wondering why Jr.'s running way better than the other guys? Hendrick is trying to show that he can make Jr. win, and Jeff, Jimmie and Casey are suffering from it, taking a step down from where they were last year. Meanwhile, Gibbs is eating it up because Kyle, Denny and Tony make for great chemistry, and Gibbs isn't focusing on any one of them.

I'm not sure how you can say that, JJ & Gordon are not even in the same shop as Jr. and Mears.

Also about the chemistry...both Johnson & Gordon have the exact same crew members as last year and the core Hendrick people are still in place from last year.

Now I'd be last person to defend Gordon, but he's run well so far aside from a broken part at Daytona and a crash at Vegas he's gotten two top 5s.

As far as Johnson goes, I'm not sure what their problem is.

These things run in cycles-remember how dominate DEI was at restrictor plate tracks-then Hendrick and RCR got caught up. Now look how good those Ford COTs look compared to last year.

I'm thinking its not that Hendrick is in a hole but rather everyone else is getting caught up with their COT programs.

 

[smracer24]

bleh

boring race, i slept through most of it

kyle busch agian, your making it hard to NOT be a fan of you, and when he took thelead, i went to the store and got a NOS, i knew it was over


carl edwards exploding was good

and tony, jr, gordons comments against goodyear, is great, nascar needs to stop being goodyears b**** and kick them out, theyve been a problem for years!

 

[Mike24]

DE3, I'm not talking about the chemistry inside the 24 and 48 teams, but with Hendrick as a whole. It just seems like the 88 is getting so much better equipment than the 24/48, this season. I realize Jeff's running well, but its just odd not seeing him and Jimmie running away with it every week.

I just think, and I'd hate to think that its true after all that Jeff and Jimmie have done for him, that Rick may be throwing a little more towards the 88's effort.

 

[Onion]

im a jr fan and what your saying mike kind of remides me of last year when when every one new he was leaving DEI seemed like truxe was getting all the good stuff

so i could be posible that it is working in has favor this year who knows

 

[Jason Roush]

Hendrick bringing Jr. in really threw off the chemistry of that race team. Anyone else wondering why Jr.'s running way better than the other guys? Hendrick is trying to show that he can make Jr. win, and Jeff, Jimmie and Casey are suffering from it, taking a step down from where they were last year.

That is one of the most absurd statements I have ever read & I am not even going to respond to it by point out some valid points.