Kyle Busch the greatest minor league racer in Nascar.

[kwillymac]

I would love them all out. Nascar wouldn't because they sell seats. It is the only sport where you can go to the minors and break records and get accolades. You go to the arena and you were demoted from the NFL. You go to the AHL and you were demoted from the NHL. They need to develop young talent. Nascar has actually set this up where the Nationwide and Truck Series "could" have a Champion with no wins. Hell I even saw Kyle down there a few years ago running the Toyota shootout or whatever in the Busch East series in Joe Gibbs equipment to win that race because it was the biggest that year. That is like going back to play High School football after being a probowl NFL star. We know he can run in the minors. I would love to see him concentrate more on the majors.

 

[Julio Chang]

Personally I would select 4 0r 5 races on the Nationwide schedule per season. I would make it the biggest races i.e. Daytona, Bristol, etc... Tell the cup guys that if they wish to run nationwide races they can run those 5 races. This gives the fans a chance to see the stars they want to see, while still giving the Nationwide regulars the opportunity for the majority of the season to show their ability and win races. It would also in those 5 races give them a chance to get a taste of the next level. That's what I would do but NASCAR doesn't listen to me so we're stuck with what we have for now.

 

[The Captain]

I would rather see Nationwide drivers winning Nationwide races too and agree 100 % on that, but I fault NASCAR for that, not Kyle. They had the opportunity to fix that this year and didn't. Its also not like he's the only Cup driver that runs the minor series. Carl Edwards has been running the ENTIRE schedule in NNS for several years now. You know how many discussions I've seen bashing him for running Nationwide races? Very few. When Clint Bowyer and Harvick were winning Championships in Nationwide well after they went full time cup and still nowhere near the number of people complained then as they do when Kyle does it. I didn't hear many people complaining about Brad last year either. If people want the cup drivers out that's fine, but it can't be we just want Kyle out because he wins all the time.

I don't like that Edwards runs the full time schedule either. I like Harvick, but even I thought running for that second NNS title after already having one and becoming an established Cup driver was a little much. The only people I would really cut any slack would be Joey Logano and Brad Keselowski just because of how quick they came up through the ranks. Even now, it should be time for them to focus mainly on the Cup aspect of their career.

 

[Clutch]

The problem we have here is that we have a (as much as some people won't admit it) fantastic driver driving what is easily the best car in the field. And NASCAR won't discourage it, because the big names sell seats etc.

Personally, I dislike the whole "Cuppers running the Nationwide show" deal. It sort of cheapens the series for me. How is the Nationwide series going to get it's own identity if the Cup drivers are there?

People should tune into Nationwide to see racers like Allgaier, Stenhouse, Bayne and the such, while people should tune into Cup to see KyBusch, Edwards, Harvick etc.

With the Cup drivers in the NWS, the developing drivers don't have the chance to become the headliners of their series. Take the Cuppers out of the equation, and someone will rise to take their place. That's the nature of the game. Someone will finish 1st instead of Kyle, Carl etc if they aren't there. And that person will get all the publicity that comes with the win. And that'll help the sponsorship search, the championship hunt and the such. It'll make the Nationwide series a series that can be taken seriously again. It'll give it that "identity" we all talk about so much.

So my suggestion? Stop Cuppers from earning owner points. That'll help curb the problem.

 

[MattSRD28]

So Kyle Busch is the Dick Trickle of the 21st century. I have no problem with that.

 

[JeffJordan]

So Kyle Busch is the Dick Trickle of the 21st century. I have no problem with that.

Dick Trickle did not have any Cup wins, and only two Nationwide wins.

 

[Shift]

When it comes to the Cup drivers in the Nationwide series, Edwards irks me more than KB. I mean isn't he still running the full season, even after they eliminated the Cup drivers from earning points? Sheesh.

 

[FloridaFan88]

Kyle Busch has become a VERY well-rounded NASCAR driver. But he doesn't have to be running every week in the Nationwide and/or Camping World Truck series. He's preventing other drivers from getting experience.

Example: Kelly Bires will be driving two races in the #18 this season. Busch does the rest of the races.

Also, there should be a rule preventing Cup drivers from running stand-alone races, such as this week's race at Nashville. The Nationwide-only drivers' best shot at winning are at stand-alone races. And Cup drivers still win those races.

 

[JeffJordan]

When it comes to the Cup drivers in the Nationwide series, Edwards irks me more than KB. I mean isn't he still running the full season, even after they eliminated the Cup drivers from earning points? Sheesh.

Busch is running like, 33 of the races.

 

[The Captain]

When it comes to the Cup drivers in the Nationwide series, Edwards irks me more than KB. I mean isn't he still running the full season, even after they eliminated the Cup drivers from earning points? Sheesh.

When it comes to Cup drivers in the Cup series Edwards irks me. My new nickname for him is Captain Commercial.

 

[Shift]

Busch is running like, 33 of the races.

Not according to Jayski....more like 23.

 

[4WideRacing]

Yeah Kyle isn't doing as many races as he has before he is even going to skip the Richmond race that he always does well at.

 

[Ryan597]

Theres no doubt that Kyle Busch has a ton of talent, but him dominating in the trucks and Nationwide series get's boring really fast. If Kyle Busch is in a truck race then you'll know who will that race . Also, I checked the top 10 in the Nationwide race at Nashville and 5 out of the top 10 drivers were full time Sprint Cup drivers, but shouldn't the Nationwide series be about people like Justin Allgaier, Ricky Stenhouse Jr, Trevor Bayne, Reed Sorenson, and those kinds of people, not Kyle Busch and other Cup guys leading over 95% of the race.

 

[jaqua99]

I am sorry if anyone takes offense to this. Kyle dominates Nationwide and Trucks no doubt. But Cup is really the only thing that matters. DW always talks about this kid like he is the greatest. Makes me sick. Winning in the minor leagues means absolutely nothing. Jimmie Johnson rules the big leagues. And Busch gets talked about more. Weird.:-/

dw doesnt say that...the espn guys do lol

 

[kwillymac]

dw doesnt say that...the espn guys do lol

Yeah they both do. Last week at Talladega Kyle started pushing someone in the two car draft and DW says "Here comes a push with a capital P." Everyone on the track was pushing. Busch isn't a great Restrictor plate driver. Just a small example. They make him out to be a monster out there.:-/

 

[Enter Sandman]

My suggestion that I've had in the past.

Put a cap on how many races in a lower series that a full-time Cup driver can run based on their Cup wins totals.

For example:

0 wins - full time
1-5 wins - 20 races
6-10 wins - 10 races
11 or more wins - 5 races

This will allow them to run still, and allow the younger Cup drivers to continue to season themselves while getting rid of the full-time and overly dominant Cup guys.

 

[WinstonCup426]

Anthony, your plan is excellent, but the only problem with it is...and I know this is a little radical, but...

what if guys deliberately try not to win so they can keep racing in Nationwide?

 

[Julio Chang]

Yeah they both do. Last week at Talladega Kyle started pushing someone in the two car draft and DW says "Here comes a push with a capital P." Everyone on the track was pushing. Busch isn't a great Restrictor plate driver. Just a small example. They make him out to be a monster out there.:-/

They do that with every major star, not just Kyle. When Dale Jr does ANYTHING it gets ran into the ground. The coverage post race last week was a perfect example of that. Jeff Gordon (my all time favorite driver) also gets covered constantly regardless of where he's running. Who gets covered too much is completely subjective. I could swear any driver I want to is covered too much. I could say they cover Jimmie Johnson to much but that would be ridiculous because he performs. Kyle Busch, like him or not, also performs. He gets talked about a lot because he leads a lot of laps and wins a lot. So far this season in cup no one has more than 1 win other than Harvick who has two. Kyle has led the most laps in I believe 3 races this year. When you are leading you get talked about. He was also leading the cup standings at Vegas before an engine failure cost him the points lead. He gained it back until Texas when two loose wheels cost him the points lead yet again. Neither of those were driver errors. But yeah, they should totally ignore a guy that has won a race this season, led a ton of laps, and has been atop the standings twice because talking about him might piss someone off.

 

[wslates]

Anthony, your plan is excellent, but the only problem with it is...and I know this is a little radical, but...

what if guys deliberately try not to win so they can keep racing in Nationwide?

They're not that dedicated to Nationwide.

 

[Janitor Dave]

My suggestion that I've had in the past.

Put a cap on how many races in a lower series that a full-time Cup driver can run based on their Cup wins totals.

For example:

0 wins - full time
1-5 wins - 20 races
6-10 wins - 10 races
11 or more wins - 5 races

This will allow them to run still, and allow the younger Cup drivers to continue to season themselves while getting rid of the full-time and overly dominant Cup guys.

I would go with that, but I would say that a driver would have to have 4 wins before they get knocked down to 20 races.