No fuel?

[eX29]

I just ran a 50% race at New Hampshire 2013 and noticed that quite a number of cars failed to finish due to No Fuel like shown in the attached picture.

I'm wondering why this happened to so many cars and looking for a possible way to fix this for future races.

Thanks!

 

[Tetronix]

Can you find the part of the Papy_AI file that deals with the fuel? I'll compare it to what I have and see if there's any differences.

 

[eX29]

I have the default papy_ai file;

driver_fuel_consumption_scaling = 0.0 ; scales effect of quickness, smoothness, and aggression
fuel_system_problem_chance = 2.0 ; % chance any problem involves fuel system problem
fuel_system_failure_chance = 5.0 ; % chance any problem/failure involves fuel system failure
fuel_leak_chance = 2.0 ; % chance any problem/failure involves fuel leak

It's rare that it happens, maybe once in awhile BUT only one driver and not a bunch like shown in the picture. I'm thinking it's more something with the track.ini

 

[Tetronix]

I have found 2 differences. Your fuel consumption should be 0.50, not 0.0 and your fuel system failure chance should be 2.0, not 5.0. Hope this helps!

 

[fortine_oo]

I just ran a 50% race at New Hampshire 2013 and noticed that quite a number of cars failed to finish due to No Fuel like shown in the attached picture.

I'm wondering why this happened to so many cars and looking for a possible way to fix this for future races.

Thanks!

It's not a papy_ai.ini problem, and your values are indeed the original (unmodified) values.

It's the track. It may be due (or compounded) to the fact the pitstalls are not in order, but I didn't go that far.
There's a section of track that is racing surface, 1517.18 - 1522.28, and it interupts the pit road subsurface. A group of cars at each pit sequence don't receive service, thereby running out of fuel. Changing the subsurface at that section to pit road clears the problem, nobody runs out of fuel.

 

[eX29]

SO... I need to edit some of these to fix the problem?

; regular stalls
stall_0 = 212.64 31.40 -0.00
stall_18 = 204.01 31.40 -0.00
stall_3 = 195.39 31.40 -0.00
stall_14 = 186.76 31.40 -0.00
stall_11 = 178.14 31.40 -0.00
stall_20 = 169.51 31.40 0.00
stall_39 = 160.88 31.40 -0.00
stall_13 = 152.26 31.40 0.00
stall_23 = 143.63 31.40 0.00
stall_30 = 135.01 31.40 0.00
stall_19 = 126.38 31.40 -0.00
stall_25 = 117.76 31.40 -0.00
stall_26 = 109.13 31.40 -0.00
stall_17 = 100.50 31.40 0.00
stall_41 = 91.88 31.40 0.00
stall_16 = 83.25 31.40 -0.00
stall_29 = 74.63 31.40 0.00
stall_2 = 66.00 31.40 0.00
stall_1 = 53.27 31.40 -0.00
stall_32 = 44.64 31.40 -0.00
stall_22 = 36.02 31.40 -0.00
stall_40 = 27.39 31.40 0.00
stall_15 = 18.77 31.40 -0.00
stall_35 = 10.14 31.40 0.00
stall_9 = 1.51 31.40 -0.00
stall_43 = 1694.82 31.40 0.00
stall_4 = 1685.99 31.40 0.00
stall_10 = 1677.37 31.40 0.00
stall_6 = 1664.57 31.40 -0.00
stall_42 = 1655.94 31.40 0.00
stall_21 = 1647.32 31.40 0.00
stall_31 = 1638.69 31.40 0.00
stall_36 = 1630.07 31.40 0.00
stall_24 = 1621.44 31.40 -0.00
stall_37 = 1612.81 31.40 0.00
stall_27 = 1604.19 31.40 -0.00
stall_34 = 1595.56 31.40 0.00
stall_28 = 1586.94 31.40 0.00
stall_38 = 1578.31 31.40 -0.00
stall_12 = 1569.69 31.40 0.00
stall_33 = 1561.06 31.40 -0.00
stall_5 = 1552.43 31.40 0.00
stall_8 = 1535.44 31.40 0.00
stall_7 = 1526.60 31.40 0.00
stall_44 = 1517.00 31.40 0.00
stall_45 = 1507.53 31.40 0.00
stall_46 = 1498.00 31.40 0.00
stall_47 = 1488.50 31.40 0.00

(It was taken from the New Hampshire 2013 track.)

 

[Hendrick4life]

Same thing for Atlanta Night 2013 I just realized tonight. Jeff Gordon had the very last pit box and he also retired to No Fuel. My box was about 3 ahead of his and I realized that I can be half out of my box and still get serviced.

 

[fortine_oo]

SO... I need to edit some of these to fix the problem?

; regular stalls

(It was taken from the New Hampshire 2013 track.)

I said I didn't know if that was compounding the problem, but you can try. You would also have to adjust [ AppRuleEnterPits ] and maybe some of the [ pit_lane_0 ] values.
I said it's a track subsurface problem. The ptf has to be changed, specifically the segment 1517.18 - 1522.28 (dlat 15.24/15.49), the F section materials subsurface changed from "racing surface" to "pit road".