**Official** NASCAR Is Removing The Wing (Spoiler pics pg. 19)

[dspence14]

Is the wing on the back of the current Sprint Cup Series car about to fly into history?

That's a distinct possibility, given that NASCAR is exploring the idea of going back to the rear spoiler, the blade across the rear decklid that for decades was part of vehicles in the sport's premier series. The rear wing is the most noticeable part of the "Car of Tomorrow," the boxier, safer vehicle that spent years in development, and was used for the first time at Bristol Motor Speedway in the spring of 2007.

The detached wing, prior to the current car not seen on a Cup-level vehicle since the days of the Dodge Daytona and Plymouth Superbird in the 1970s, was designed to make the vehicle less dependent on aerodynamics. Yet many drivers have complained that the car in its current configuration is very difficult to drive, and many fans have balked at both the vehicle's appearance and the type of competition it fosters on the race track..

I want to see the cup cars with the spoiler on it. I don't like the wing on the car.

 

[zaw24fan]

To rain on your parade (sorry dude)

From JayskI

NASCAR to test spoliers on the COT; Wing gone? denied: NASCAR officials are seriously considering a plan that would replace the rear wing with a spoiler on Sprint Cup cars, spokesman Ramsey Poston said on Thursday. "We are currently meeting with drivers and owners to discuss a number of options," Poston said. "Going back to the spoiler is one of them under serious consideration. We'll make an announcement in the coming weeks." Before the governing body makes a final decision, the spoiler and how it reacts with the new heavier car will be tested in the wind tunnel and on the track. If there are signs the spoiler will improve competition then the switch is likely to occur. Poston would not say when the change might occur, but it is unlikely it will happen in time for the February opener at Daytona International Speedway. The decision to look at the spoiler came after intense meetings, including one Thursday at NASCAR's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C., with select drivers and owners. There has been universal concern since the car was introduced in 2007 that the lack of down force has been a hindrance to good racing. The previous car used a spoiler.(ESPN)
AND - Wing Gone? Denied: #19-Elliott Sadler told Sirius NASCAR Radio's Sirius Speedway with Dave Moody Thursday that NASCAR is investigating new ways of keeping Spring Cup Series racers from taking flight during events at Daytona International Speedway and Talladega Superspeedway. Sadler was one of many drivers and team owners who attended a closed-door meeting with the sanctioning body at NASCAR's Technical Center earlier Thursday, and said there are changes being discussed. "They've come up with some different ideas on the roof flaps and rear windows to help keep these cars on the ground," said Sadler. However, he denied published reports that a discussion was held about doing away with the car's rear wing in favor of old-style rear spoilers. "There was nothing said about losing the wing, but NASCAR is definitely interested in doing whatever they can to make this deal safer," he said. "Brian France is going to sit across the table from every single driver and team owner to ask for their input. They read e-mails today that they've gotten from fans asking about different things, and it's pretty clear that they're listening to what people have to say. They're obviously trying to create the best possible experience for teams and fans."(Sirius Speedway)(1-8-2010)

Yes, the fact that NASCAR is 'exploring' the idea of returning to a spoiler, seeing it happen is not likely, or in Jayski's case, denied. I don't know how much truth is behind this story, but it looks like there will still be a wing on the rear of the Sprint Cup COT.

 

[evan07]

Isn't there going to be major changes to the car in 2011? If I remember right I thought there was going to be some big changes.

 

[zaw24fan]

Isn't there going to be major changes to the car in 2011? If I remember right I thought there was going to be some big changes.

Not as of now.

 

[3fan]

GET RID OF THE WING!!!!!!!! 'nough said

 

[DannyM]

It said on Nascar.com that the decision will be made later this week... so I wouldn't count the spoiler out yet. If they do change it, that would be Nascar's best decision in 10 years. The wing sucks, and is the main reason for the terrible 1.5 mile races that we see.

 

[kdw48]

although they have made the cot more competitive over the last 2 years i still dont like it. i still miss the old cars.

 

[Fisha695]

The Wing is here to stay, they just need to re-work it a bit (put it up a little higher in the air, maybe make it out of Lexan as the SS tracks so visibility in the draft isn't an issue).

Now I wasn't alive way back when the Spoilers were introduced (I'm willing to bet that just about nobody here was), but I can guarantee the same basic criticism that the wing is getting now.

There is a reason that over 99% of auto-racing across the world uses the wing and well hardly anybody uses spoilers.

Hell look at the S2 & NGB latemodel bodies, even they have wings (actually wings that are better designed then the NASCAR ones.

Put the Cup wing up in the air like that and then the majority of your problems will be solved.


Oh and of note....
From Factory
2010 Ford Fusion = Wing
2010 Chevy Impala = Wing
2010 Dodge Charger R/T = Wing
2010 Toyota Camry = Neither (kinda Ironic when you think about all the “Jap”/Ricer comments about cars with wings)

 

[Bucket]

There is a reason that over 99% of auto-racing across the world uses the wing and well hardly anybody uses spoilers.

Whatever you say.

Wait, I didn't see the across the world part. :err:

 

[Bucket]

I think NASCAR should go back to when Winston Cup cars could be run in ARCA and vice-versa. ARCA teams are getting killed because they just used to buy old cars from Cup teams. They can't do that anymore.

 

[Austin Lucas]

wait....isnt the wing the reason the COT blows over more?

 

[JeffJordan]

The wings are made to make the car less aerodynamically dependent, for more exciting racing. However, if the car gets backwards at high speed, air gets through the wing, which wouldn't happen with a spoiler.

 

[Fisha695]

I think NASCAR should go back to when Winston Cup cars could be run in ARCA and vice-versa. ARCA teams are getting killed because they just used to buy old cars from Cup teams. They can't do that anymore.

In ARCA you can run the 105" and 110" chassis, much like the Camping World East/West series. With the NNS COT coming on full time in a year or so and the East/West series maybe getting restructured soon (rumor has it the East/West, Canadian, & Mexican series are all going to be going to a car based off of the current Mexico series car) there will be plenty of chassis for ARCA teams for a few years to come.

Not to mention that ARCA is also planning on adopting the COT chassis as it's chassis in a few years.

wait....isnt the wing the reason the COT blows over more?

No, the reason the cars blow over is the same reason they've always blown over, air gets underneath the car.

The wings are made to make the car less aerodynamically dependent, for more exciting racing. However, if the car gets backwards at high speed, air gets through the wing, which wouldn't happen with a spoiler.

Yes but it does not create enough lift by itself to blow over a 3400lb car. For example Newmans car blew over not because of the wing, but because of the fact that the trunk floor is not level with the the bottom of the body and the way the underside of the car is designed that air gets trapped underneath it. The underside essentially acts like a parachute or kite and catches the air and blows the car upwards. Wing or Spoiler that effect will still be the same with how high the cars sits off the ground in the rear. In anything the wing allows some of the air to move under it and over the decklid and back across the top of the car, where the spoiler would force all the air down and make it go under the car, which inturn brings us back to the parachute effect.

 

[Josh Mertz]

The wings are made to make the car less aerodynamically dependent, for more exciting racing. However, if the car gets backwards at high speed, air gets through the wing, which wouldn't happen with a spoiler.

More exciting racing my ass! How many seconds did Jim Bot have over 2nd place in the Snorefest 500 at California?

 

[JeffJordan]

Snorefest 500 at California?

You'll have to specify.

 

[Josh Mertz]

You'll have to specify.

08 and 09 Pepsi 500s. Or whatever the fall race is called now.

 

[Bucket]

In ARCA you can run the 105" and 110" chassis, much like the Camping World East/West series. With the NNS COT coming on full time in a year or so and the East/West series maybe getting restructured soon (rumor has it the East/West, Canadian, & Mexican series are all going to be going to a car based off of the current Mexico series car) there will be plenty of chassis for ARCA teams for a few years to come.

Well see Carlos Pardo all over again...

 

[Josh Mertz]

lmfao about the picture! :LOL::LOL::LOL:

 

[Fisha695]

Well see Carlos Pardo all over again...

Considering that those cars are Latemodel style cars and that every week series such as PASS, the ASA (both the real ASA and the copycat ASA), UARA, ACT, USAR, NASCAR Elite Division (well not anymore since the series is dead) etc all run that same basic style of car at tracks with speeds that are the same if not greater then what he was going when he died, and we've yet to see any real problems that I can remember.

Hell the CASCAR/Canadian Tire cars are the same basic style as well and there have been no major problems.


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[moppenheimer]

Well see Carlos Pardo all over again...

Even the COT in the impact he had would've been in a very bad state....That is more crappy track design at Puebla, not so much the car