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**Official** NASCAR Is Removing The Wing (Spoiler pics pg. 19)

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Well putting a spoiler back on would help the look of the car alittle in my opinion. They should also fix up the splitter too.
 

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He wasn't afraid. He wanted to win.

The second part is true. The first one is not. I was listening to the radio of the #09 in the last two laps and he said that he wouldn't let what happened to Regan Smith happen to him. He had the momentum, obviously, and he would have gotten by Edwards but would have been disqualified without actually clearing Edwards for takeoff.
 

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With or without the wing Edwards would have been spun and/or flipped by Keselowski.
 

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With or without the wing Edwards would have been spun and/or flipped by Keselowski.

And with or without the Yellow line rule the leader will still block people down to the outside edge of the racing surface and into the "No-Go" area.

That's how it works.

If you get a car backwards at 200mph it's going to lift-off and flip, doesn't matter if it has a COT wing, Old-school road racing Wing, Pikes Peak Suziki wing, Any of the incarnations of the spoiler, nothing at all, no matter what 200mph backwards the car is going to flip because of how high off the ground the rear of the car sits.
 

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And with or without the Yellow line rule the leader will still block people down to the outside edge of the racing surface and into the "No-Go" area.

That's how it works.

If you get a car backwards at 200mph it's going to lift-off and flip, doesn't matter if it has a COT wing, Old-school road racing Wing, Pikes Peak Suziki wing, Any of the incarnations of the spoiler, nothing at all, no matter what 200mph backwards the car is going to flip because of how high off the ground the rear of the car sits.

Exactly. Well said. You can't prevent a car going backwards @ 200mph from flipping over unless it is tied to the ground.
 

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The big question is:

Will the COT mod guys at Bullring and Rioux get a new spoiler version of their latest mods out quickly when we see the new COT if this happens?

Who will have one out first? :wink: :D
 

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If NASCAR were to do away with the yellow line that would make racing very dangerous. My point: if a car were to get a 205 mph draft down the straight, go below the line and just cut right back into traffic it would cause mayhem. Keep the yellow line, keep the wings, but the drafting has to be better.
 

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I'm not sure how this would work, but I recall someone mentioning getting rid of the front splitter. If that were to happen AND they put the spoiler back on...BAM we have a boxy version of the old car.

I would love having a closed off front end, it'd be like having a coy superspeedway car every week.
 

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If NASCAR were to do away with the yellow line that would make racing very dangerous. My point: if a car were to get a 205 mph draft down the straight, go below the line and just cut right back into traffic it would cause mayhem.

There IS a yellow line rule and well just look at the attached pic and tell me that's not mayhem.
 

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There IS a yellow line rule and well just look at the attached pic and tell me that's not mayhem.

And when Carl would have forced Brad into the grass thus wrecking himself and Brad ( as well as everybody behind them) that would have been better?


The problem with the yellow line is that the drivers are too stupid to treat it like it's supposed to be treated, and that is like a solid wall.
 

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I don't get why it's even enforced. If a driver wants to go around Daytona on the grass then let them.
 

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ok so you showed the a big crash now with the yellow line rule but now look for the ones where the guy darts down below and comes up to clear the field.
 

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I don't get why it's even enforced. If a driver wants to go around Daytona on the grass then let them.

Why are out of bounds lines enforced in any sport? Hell without the racing surface rule a driver could do donuts on the S/F line and win the race as long as his transponder passes the S/F line as many times as it's supposed to before anybody elses.


ok so you showed the a big crash now with the yellow line rule but now look for the ones where the guy darts down below and comes up to clear the field.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tn9vxzbp5M"]YouTube- 2008 Aaron's 312 Nationwide Talladega Race - The Big One[/ame]

Wait nevermind I misread the "Clear the Field" part, oh well I'll keep that video there anyway l0l

Oh and here is the video of a car essentially doing the same thing Newmans car did, except it has a Spoiler oh and it's not the COT.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG9dAROIKPQ"]YouTube- 2001 Daytona 500 Tony Stewart "Whale Of A Ride" Big one Live[/ame]
 
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If NASCAR were to do away with the yellow line that would make racing very dangerous. My point: if a car were to get a 205 mph draft down the straight, go below the line and just cut right back into traffic it would cause mayhem. Keep the yellow line, keep the wings, but the drafting has to be better.

Yes, but they woould not take as huge a risk as one trying to get back in line and not being disqualified. It's what happened at Daytona, it's like trying to fit an elephant into a phone booth.
 

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Newman's crash had him airborne without a force pushing him. When Stewart flipped, Robby Gordon was pushing the front end of the car while it was going over. That's why Stewart ended up half on Gordon's roof after Gordon moved to the right.

Robby pushing him did not make him flip until after Tony was already in the air. Once Tony's car was airborne is when the force from Robby's car flipped him.

Why not just put the little Wicker-Bill things on the roof again, that'll solve a lot of problems, but make them a permanent part of the car at all track

Maybe do it Street-Stock style


Hell maybe the problem doesn't lay with the wing itself, but with the degree that the wing is set-at, let 'em run them at whatever degree setting they want for the Shootout and see what that does, maybe just raising or lowering that degree will solve the drafting problems with this car.
 

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If they lift the yellow line rule, they had better give Regan Smith his victory back.
 

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Here's what Nascar should do. If they lift the yellow line rule, it will be VERY dangerous.

So, as it is now the yellow line is off limits however when the leader takes the white flag, the yellow line is fair game. This will keep the driver safe during the main part of the race, while allowing them to pass on the last lap if need be.
 

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Here's what Nascar should do. If they lift the yellow line rule, it will be VERY dangerous.

So, as it is now the yellow line is off limits however when the leader takes the white flag, the yellow line is fair game. This will keep the driver safe during the main part of the race, while allowing them to pass on the last lap if need be.

I think they should do sort of the opposite. They should add the rule at all the tracks so that the drivers have to learn to pass without going out of bounds at all tracks.

I hate to use sports analogies but this one kinda fits.

What you are suggesting is like saying that in Football when in the Red-Zone the receivers/runners should be allowed to go out of bounds and then come back in-bounds in the end-zone to score a point.

What NASCAR currently has now is like saying that the Home team can go out of bounds come back in and score, but the Away team can't.

EDIT: Just thought of something, why don't they just do something like the new Yas Marina Circuit (see attachment), where your wheels (in NASCAR's case would be the left side) would be allowed in the green area, but once they go past the inside of the green area it's a penalty no matter if you were forced there or if you did it on your own.

Paint it green and tell 'em to treat it like Grass.
 

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