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She needs to start in the Truck series first.
I was speaking of his claim that she only seek Cup level ride next season which is not true. I do agreed that if she took the shortcut to Cup, she will not success. She knows that and she planned on taking longer route instead of going straight to Cup level.
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Mike24 said:
Fairly certain that Patrick would indeed succeed Martin in the #5 if she does sign. Martin's contract with Hendrick and Patrick's new contract with Andretti both end within a year of each other, IIRC.
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Well I like how she said she wants to test the waters before going to the big boys, But I think Involving her with jr even tho I think this more is Ricks project then JRs. Jr alone in nascar is media frenzy and face it lately it hasnt been for winning and Danica is has been in a Media darling for not so great thing herself most of the time. The two would be circus and really hurt the both them and the sport. I could on and on my opinions of Jr alone but I want stay on topic with danica. I think Danica would be better off at a smaller team well not so much smaller but a team that isnt main stream. KHI would be ok, I wouldnt want that as a that is my team but its low key with many ties to cup teams plus Kevin is a very hands on owner when he can be with the schedules. But one thing for sure is she will need to loose that bitchy attitude and not throw her tantrums because in Nascar that crap does fly. We already have Kyle for that mess anyways =P
Also on a side not Brad isnt total out of hendricks grabs even rick has said he wouldnt let Brad go far and if you want to talk who would be replace I think if Mark keeps having great success he will died in the 5 car =P and the odd man out is the guy who isnt doing so well you do that math on that one.
Also on a side not Brad isnt total out of hendricks grabs even rick has said he wouldnt let Brad go far and if you want to talk who would be replace I think if Mark keeps having great success he will died in the 5 car =P and the odd man out is the guy who isnt doing so well you do that math on that one.
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Does anyone think she's the Dale Jr of indycar? Kinda Ironic she's driving for him. I have a wait and see attitude with her in this venture. Its not a bad idea that she's trying it. I just think, like a few people said. She should have waited another few years in Indycars and rap that up before she jumps into nascar.
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That's exactly why I don't want this to happen. It just makes to much sense for her to jump in the 5 after Mark retires...and that upsets me to no end...
Hendrick Motorsports is turning into a sideshow between Jr., Brad when he was still in the picture, and if she happens to sign, her. Rick seems to have lost his roots. He's turning a great team into a media sideshow. I miss the old days with Jeff, Terry, Craven, Nadeau, Wally, and even the early Jimmie years...
After Jeff eventually retires, I am done with HMS...
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One difference: Danica is a never-was, while Junebug is a has-been.
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That is alittle rough a rough patch doesnt mean he is a has-been. I am going to say some most of JR nation doesnt want to hear. Jr screwed himself when he left DEI. He had control of his team but it wasnt good enough he wanted ownership. He didnt get and he took his guys and left for what he thought was greener grass and a chance to make it even bigger. But he cant have what he had at DEI and what is making him so frustrated control its Ricks car its his calls and it doesnt matter if Dale, Mark, Jimmie or Jeff if they aint doing he will make the call and changes. Rick calls the shots. At DEI the only one who really put pressure on himself maybe besides Bud was himself, Noone at DEI was. He wanted it all and lost it all. I dont think he can get that relationship with any team now a days.
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Mike24 said:
Well, I guess Rick ensuring that he's got perceived top talent behind the wheel of his cars for the foreseeable future is upsetting? I mean, obviously neither Danica or Dale Jr. are being touted for their on-track results. That much is certain. Yet, sponsors are still willing to put up big money to support them. Is this one of those "I hate humanity" moments for you? If so, I'm with ya there, but Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl, and I still see him pushing Nutra-System on TV. Humanity being mostly retarded isn't really a new thing.
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Eh, I think it's more the media turning the team into a media sideshow. Dale Jr. & Dancia notwithstanding, Hendrick does have the most success on the track week to week, and that garners the media attention. Since the media's ability to actually cover a race with any kind of intellectual capacity has for the most part completely vanished in the past 7-10 years, I think what you're really seeing is the media's own stupidity combined with their catering to what some of the idiots in the general public actually want to see (i.e. team infighting, driver drama, etc.) showing itself most prominently. If I was a fan of Hendrick, I wouldn't let that drag my interest in the team down.
The media has become so much dumber than it used to be, it's almost shocking to watch productions of decades past & realize how good at thinking these people were to put on what they did given the resources they had. Hollywood & journalism has become vastly less intelligent since then, and where they haven't become less intelligent, they've become political. In some places they've become political and less intelligent, and that's where the true comedy lies.
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Exactly...you hit the nail right on the head with my ranting...it just kills me to think that Rick would sacrifice on track result for sponsorship dollars and media coverage. But I do understand that, unfortunately, that's what its all about today, and that makes me sick.
The media is turning them into a sort of sideshow, especially with all of the on track success from most of the teams. However, Rick is somewhat responsible for the attention his team gets that isn't due to the team's successes. He hired his drivers, and lately, as I've said, it seems he's thinking more and more about media coverage, building a team of superstars, and sponsorship dollars, than in house chemistry and winning from top to bottom. Right now he has 3 awesomely competitive teams, and one celebrity in Cup. And may soon have 1 of each in Nationwide. The media is responsible for making things bigger than they really are, and enabling the "idiots of the general public" to see that they want to see, but is seems more and more like Rick has lost touch with his old self, which built this awesome organization.
I will be a fan of Jeff Gordon forever, and am thrilled that Martin is now driving for Hendrick. I love what HMS has done to get to this points, and I've been too deeply rooted in my fanhood of them to ever make me think about turning my back on them...From Jeff's career, to Jack Sprague's 3 truck titles, to Vickers, to Terry Labonte, Jerry Nadeau, and now Mark Martin, among other things. But with all of the new developments, and with the way Rick now does business, I find myself less and less invested in the team. And as I look down the road, I find my link to HMS only lasts as long as, now Mark, and Jeff are still with the team. Mark will be gone after 2011, and I'm sure Jeff won't be more than 2-3 years behind him.
I'm with you all the way on this. The current media is a shell of its former, great self. However, the media and hollywood have had to dumb themselves down, to get to the level that a lot of society has reached. Though...the correlation may be the other way...maybe society has become dumb from the media and hollywood becoming less intelligent, rather than hollywood and the media having to lower themselves to allow society to understand it...eh, let's just call it a vicious circle... (my pondering for the day). I could go on for pages and pages about how disgusted I am with what the media and society have become...but I won't so this thread does not go off topic. Regardless, I completely agree with you, Matt!
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