SPEED to be rebranded as FOX Sports One

[RP Motorsports]

Then explain to me how does this website exist...
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I saw all the UFC talk so I assumed he was talking about World Extreme Cagefighting.

My bad for misunderstanding if that wasnt the case.

 

[David24]

I agree with most of what RP Motorsports said. I don't care for Big Brother or American Idol. So I don't watch them. Viola it's erased from my life (unless they blab about it on the radio)

I'd buy a Nascar Channel. I literally can't get enough Nascar news, especially this time of year (silly season) That's part of the reason why I'm a member here and at RuRa is to read up on the latest Nascar news and to see what everybody else has to say on different situations. Nascar may not be as popular as baseball or football but there is way more than enough news/highlights within the sport for it to get it's own channel.

 

[Cody Ficker]

I don't think that NASCAR, or any motorsport should get its own channel. Why? Because motorsports are much different than stick and ball sports. There's almost no correlation between football and baseball and hockey. But NASCAR and IndyCar and Monster Jam. You bet there's some correlation there. An issue for NASCAR can impact IndyCar and Formula 1. When Milwaukee closed down, it was an industry wide issue. When the old Yankee stadium was closed down no one but baseball fans could give a rats rear-end.

As you can tell, I don't like stick and ball sports. I think they have an evil grip-hold on our global society. You can get payed millions of dollars for playing a game, and people who actually deserve something are left juggling bills.

But really, I could go for something like a numerical system of multiple SPEED channels, i.e SPEED 1, SPEED 2. I could even go for SPEED: NASCAR and SPEED Open-Wheel.

 

[MattSRD28]

As I asked above, why not?

Oversaturation.

 

[tipptruck]

For those who are saying "we dont need all these NASCAR shows" so on and so forth, just a suggestion - dont watch them! There are plenty of fans who are thankful for every single NASCAR show there is. Nobody else will give it the respect and time of day, so if one channel wanted to do that, whats the problem? Nobody is forcing you to tune in.

To each their own, but I just dont get this mentality of "I dont care to watch it, therefore, they should take it off the air". The programs and coverage are put on TV for those who want to watch it (and theres more than enough people who do). And those who dont want to watch it, can change the channel, or turn off the TV, or go outside, or do whatever.



WEC doesnt even exist anymore, and hasnt for a couple years now.



Why not? NHL, NFL, MLB, Golf, and many more have their own channel. Why cant NASCAR? If you dont care for it, then dont buy it. Its really that simple. NASCAR wouldnt move the races to a pay-per-view deal like that, so you wouldnt be missing anything.



As I asked above, why not? There are plenty of fans who are very thankful for that coverage, and watch it every time its on. Besides, its just two, sometimes three, practices a weekend. Its not like its a 10-hour Barrett-Jackson auction or something. Its a couple hours out of the weekend and thats it. If they wernt being broadcasted, it would probably just be one of these "reality" shows anyways.



I've never seen this "three-hour pregame show" you speak of...Unless you're talking about football...

Aside from that, how does every network repeat the same thing that is shown on dozens of shows? Most networks dont even talk about NASCAR, and if they do, its a real brief minute just to report what happened in the race or something like that. Then its back to football and baseball. The shows they put on SPEED give fans something they cant get anywhere else. Its much more in depth coverage, lots of news and interviews, features, and all kinds of stuff. There aint any other networks doing that. And theres plenty of people who watch these shows too.

Like I said above, and to each their own, but if you dont care for them, then dont watch them.

First Off I thought the pre race show was three hours. So my bad on that part. I do not watch any of them shows. Were they talk about what is going on. I do not care if its some thing about F1, NCAA football, pro football, or racing of any kind. You want to know why. The internet. If I want to find out some news. A simple google search is just as good. So why waste 30-60 minutes of my time. To hear 2 minutes of news.

As for a all NASCAR channel. I have access to the NFL network, MLB network, CBS college sports, Fox soccer channel, Big ten net work, Wold fishing network. I like all them sports. But I do not need 24/7 coverege of every thing. Like I said they repeat every thing. You ever watch any of the pro sports channels when there sport is not is season. Its lame and dull. They talk about bs just to get people to watch.

 

[celticfang]

No. Just no.

Bring back Speedvision, hell, bring back SPEED before it got destroyed with reality shows. That is what I want to watch. I don't want to turn it on and watch Navy against Holy Cross on a Saturday when I could be watching Cup qualifying or a classic race on that channel.

(Sidenote: ESPN Classic here got rebranded, showed classic F1/sportscars/NASCAR for a month then gave that up in favor of ESPN documentaries.)

To me the whole deal stinks of FOX wanting to make the most money, but....it's just a bad deal in my view. I can't see any way that SPEED higher up will get what they want how they want it.

EDIT: You have CBS? I feel bad for you after watching their coverage earlier.

I would love a classic channel that actually explores the history of NASCAR through the years, I could pay a small fee for that type of channel

 

[MillsLayne]

It just makes me mad that we're probably losing more motorsports coverage so we can get yet another channel to show more stick and ball (sounds like baseball, mostly). I can watch ESPN for that crap. And I know it's going to try and compete against ESPN, but that's not going to happen. So now we have another wasted channel. And none dedicated to racing. Not that SPEED has been for the past few years, but it was the closest thing to it.

 

[Fisha695]

I happen to like Barrett-Jackson coverage, though 10 hours is a little much. Some may find it hard to believe, but theres a lot of people that watch it. It has caught on and become a big hit for SPEED.

I don't mind BJ but I think over the past few years it went from being a "special spectical" to being something that is overexposed & overhyped. Though that has more to do with BJ itself then it does SPEED (though those highlight shows that they broadcast way to much have actually had a negative impact IMHO)

I watch Barrett-Jackson at times but it should be aired as a filler and not at the expense of live racing. You know where SPEED's priorities are when they pull Bob Varsha off of F1 to do a car auction. It is bass-ackwards!

Especially Barret Jackson auctions, nobody wants to see that. I've always hated Barret Jackson auctions.

Fun Fact: SPEED Channel was founded in January of 1996, in January of 1997 they started showing the BJ Auctions live so it's not like they're something that have only been around for a few years, they are part of the DNA of the network & have been for 15 years.

Baseball has MLB Network

And once this rebranding happens, where's the dedicated racing channel?

Where is the dedicated racing channel now?
NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAA, NHL, etc all have their own channels because said sanctioning body of that sport spent the money to create a channel. If NASCAR, Indycar, NHRA, FIA, etc want their own dedicated channel they should spend their moldy-money and start one.

We would have to upgrade our package to even get that channel. i dont think fuel will be the new speed because they show alot of ufc fights on fueltv, i hope nascar doesnt go over to nbc sports network because i dont get that channel either. Maybe its time for nascar to have their own network.

And fuel has uFC....

The UFC stuff on FuelTV would be moved to FSN1. If NASCAR would get their own network you'd have to pay for it just like you have to pay for FuelTV, etc.

It's Fox trying to get more out of their asset.

Exactly, FOX is one of the "Big Networks" right alongside of ABC, CBS & NBC all of which have their own dedicated Nationwide sports channels. There is no reason that FOX shouldn't have one either & the easiest way to do that is to rebrand one of their current channels (especially one that has wide carriage on basic cable).

To be perfectly honest, we don't really need EVERY practice session televised...

Oversaturation.

Once again, exactly. Why should I go out of my way to watch a Cup race live when I can watch it 3 times in full during the week & 4 times in an abbreviated highlighted version. I'm all for Practice & Qualifying being on TV (live or taped) but there is no need for them to be replayed later that night like they often are, "1 & done" you miss it then too bad.

I don't think that NASCAR, or any motorsport should get its own channel. Why? Because motorsports are much different than stick and ball sports. There's almost no correlation between football and baseball and hockey. But NASCAR and IndyCar and Monster Jam. You bet there's some correlation there. An issue for NASCAR can impact IndyCar and Formula 1.

And how would the fact that there are issues that could affect multiple Sanctioning Bodies prevent a single Sanctioning Body from creating a network? I can't speak for anything but the NFL Network but they cover major industry-wide news (steroid scandals, lockout/stadium news, etc) from all sports.

When Milwaukee closed down, it was an industry wide issue. When the old Yankee stadium was closed down no one but baseball fans could give a rats rear-end.

Baseball fans, everybody who went their to see concerts or the numerous other events they held each year. When let's say Madison Square Garden eventually closes down it's gonna affect Basketball, Hockey, Wrestling/Boxing/MMA, Concerts, Trade Shows, Stage Shows, etc etc etc... So should sports that play in multi-use stadiums not have dedicated channels then because their venues are used for more then just that one sport?

But really, I could go for something like a numerical system of multiple SPEED channels, i.e SPEED 1, SPEED 2. I could even go for SPEED: NASCAR and SPEED Open-Wheel.

Home - SPEED2

What will happen is SPEED (Fox Sports One) will become their main sports channel. Racing will be limited to the essentials i.e. races. All of the "Nascar Now" and alike shows will get canned.
In reality, there will either be a channel that takes over SPEED which will be only on "premium" packages or there won't be a channel at all. Say good bye to the qualifying coverage, Nascar Now, and all of those programs.

ESPN is an "Everything Sports Network" and they should NASCAR Now & the regional FOXSports Net channels used to show a daily/weekly NASCAR news show so I feel that a show like Racehub will be more then safe on the new FSN1

Speed hasn't been speed for almost ten years. I remember when it was all racing. Over the last 10 years is has become a joke. Like every other network. I can not even watch there so called NASCAR coverage. I miss there old days of covering NASCAR.

The only difference between their current & former NASCAR coverage is that there is 500 times more coverage of NASCAR now then there was 10+ years ago.

I wish they would go back to showing races from Europe and around the globe. We do not need 18 hours of NASCAR on one channel. When there is live racing some were. I would not care if it was on a tape delay. I would watch it.

And at the end of the day it is up to those Sanctioning Bodies/Series to sign/agree to contracts to have their series broadcast here in the USA.
WTCC, BTCC, DTM, etc are all broadcast on SPEED, live on SPEED2 & tape delayed on the main SPEED Network.

Does anyone know how this might affect their truck and F1 coverage?

Trucks are what, 2hrs of racing every few weeks? That should be rather un-effected (though I'm thinking that NBCSN may make a play for it).

As for F1... Newscorp seems to like F1 as it is the broadcaster of it in several countries;
Fox Sports Latinoamérica -- Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Mexico, Paraguay, Perú & Uruguay
SPEED (Spanish version) -- Argentina, Chile, & Mexico
Sky -- Austria, Germany & UK
Star Sports -- East & Southeast Asia
SPEED (English) - USA

So I feel that it's pretty safe to say the F1 races will remain on FSN1. In addition to the Spanish version of SPEED there is also an Australian version of the channel that launched in 2010 though it doesn't show F1. Sky also launched a dedicated F1 channel starting this year.

And speaking of Sky they do show a ton of Motorsports (though they also have like 6 SkySports channels to spread that out around) so I don't think that FSN1 will abandon the coverage of Motorsports.


As far as a NASCAR only channel I think people are underestimating the properties that NASCAR owns & they are thinking it'll only be a Cup/NNS/CWTS channel.
Cup
NNS
CWTS
K&N East
K&N West
WMT
WMST
Canadian Tire Series
Mexico Toyota Series
Euro Racecar Series
Whelen All-American Series (close to 100 tracks & I think 6 divisions)
AMA Pro Racing
-- AMA Superbikes
-- AMA Motocross
-- AMA Flat Track
-- AMA Supermoto
-- AMA Hillclimb
-- AMA ATV Pro Racing
Grand-Am Road Racing
-- Rolex Sports Car Series (and whatever becomes of the ALMS "merger" starting in 2014)
-- Conti Tire Series
-- Ferrari Challenge North America
-- Shell Historic Challenge (support series for Ferrari Challenge)
-- DTM (supposedly a USA based version coming for 2013)
-- Whatever support series they keep from the ALMS "merger"

So it's not like NASCAR would be short of things to show on their network even while keeping the Cup/NNS/Truck races on a more basic Cable TV package.

 

[Relly]

Not speaking for anyone else, just myself when I say that I hope Fox Sports One will keep airing qualifying, RaceDay, Victory Lane, NASCAR Hub and at least one practice session like they did with Fox Sports NET 10 or so years ago in addition to keeping the Truck races. Would I still like to see all the NASCAR Live coverage and all the practice session? Absolutely, but if they take it away I would understand.

I just would have to caution Fox Sports in doing a 24 hour sports network, no one can compete with ESPN, NBC Sports is failing as is CBS Sports, granted it's still early but it's not looking good. Fox tried going against ESPN before as had CNN/SI and Fox Sports Net (for the most part is gone) as is CNN/SI. I just don't want to see FOX replace a known product with something of an uncertainty.

As far as a NASCAR channel (a la NFL Network, NBA TV ect.) I would love to see it, as Fisha695 pointed out NASCAR owns a lot of properties and could bring some great exposure to series like the Canadian Tire Series or the Mexican Series not to mention, I can't be the only one that wants to see more K&N races on TV. Also it could provide the outlet for some cool shows like Speed had with NASCAR Drivers 360 or even a Hard Knocks style show on the road to Speedweeks. I just feel that distribution could be an issue, us Time Warner customers just got the network for the most popular sporting league in America (NFL Network), would NASCAR be able to put together a good enough package to entice the major companies to pick them up and would things like Canadian races or K&N races be enough to help carry the network?

 

[DBReaver35]

Will Fox launch all-sports network? According to this if Fox does this it won't be converted until after 2014 Deal with NASCAR ends. but according to this its not even a done deal and alot of others things are being consider and or proposed.

 

[dalejrgamer]

That article was posted on April 2nd, tho. The one I posted in the first post is very recent.

 

[K.Chuck]

There are a lot of articles going back over a year time frame on this. To see it still be discussed as recent as a day or two ago only solidifies that something is going to happen. The details are not really out there though, but I don't see us losing much NASCAR coverage. Televised NASCAR has only grown sense its inception and has become a profitable asset.

 

[Julio Chang]

It's not a move I'm happy about. Pretty much any non top level touring NASCAR series will lose a lot of, if not all of its coverage. No K&N, no Aussie V8 (Which already isn't shown enough), Grand-Am may survive with its impending merger and find a home with ESPN. F1 is safe. I would put cash money down as a bet that F1 will still be on TV. While it may not be my kind of racing, it's too popular not to be. I would like to see them possibly get IndyCar coverage. IndyCar needs it badly if they want to survive long term but I don't see it happening. And yes, I'm aware some people love Barrett-Jackson. I'm aware it's popular, but for those of us who are racing addicts, coverage of car auctions being valued over live racing and taking up television time for an entire weekend is always going to seem stupid no matter how many ratings sheets proving its popularity you may present to us. I'd rather be watching K&N cars beatin' and bangin' over a powder blue corvette with chrome wheels being bid on by rich people. Don't get me wrong, if I had the money to bid on cars like that I would too, but it doesn't make entertaining tv for me, and even if it did, I still can't convince myself that it should be valued over actual racing.

 

[Elio Lugaru]

I do not APPROVE of this.
I like watching the K&N Pro Series Races & The Modfied Races.
If this happens, I see them going bye bye.

 

[bigrolltide1877]

The Daly Planet: TV Negotiations Suggest Rebranding Of SPEED

This article was posted earlier this month. Maybe this will clear up things a little bit.

 

[Frigus5]

I don't like this one bit. Sure SPEED is nothing but Barrett-Jackson and reality shows, but man I hate baseball. I hate most stick and ball sports unless they're a select few (Football, Hockey, Rugby, and Aussie Rules are my favorite and only stick and ball stuff I watch) and I want SPEED to remain the same. I need my 24 hour motorsports network. Why? Because without it, what else will there be for me to watch? I will have basically no reason to get cable/satellite in the coming years because I won't have SPEED. Just disgusting. Fox has FSN. A virtual monopoly of the regional sports networks. Do they really need to kill off the only network that I actually watch anymore?

 

[David24]

I actually like the auctions. They provide a lot of interesting and random information about not only cars but motorcycles and even boats and planes. And some of the customs are cool to see.

To me this is like a second loss of Speed Channel. The late 90's and early 2000's, or should I just say SpeedVision, was the best. Almost everything broadcasted was a race of something. Today's Speed has absolutely nothing on SpeedVision. Now we have that Bronx show and Pinks and other random crap. But I don't think anything is worse than Baseball. I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than watch that sport.

 

[MillsLayne]

I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than watch that sport.

I'm very close to seconding this, but that would hurt very badly!

 

[Phantomguy24]

I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than watch that sport.

Try being a Mets fan lol. But in all seriousness I love watching a baseball game but there is no need for round the clock coverage, which we pretty much already have anyway.

 

[Highbank]

I'm not big on the reality shows on SPEED, the auctions are fine, it's automotive, I'm amazed at how many racing series recieve little or no coverage and yet we have to watch hours of other programing that is clearly created to make SPEED just like any other network. I thought the idea was SPEED? I get the money side of it, but when you look at from the money side you also have to realize there are some corporations that want TV time for their sponsored teams. They're buying advertising space.

I love how on the Aussie Supercar broadcasts they (the announcers use the sponsor names very often as much as they name the drivers. They get it I think.