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The Chase Is Not Needed.

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FloridaFan88

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The Chase was never needed. With the Chase it determines a champion for really a 10-race season. NASCAR Greats, such as Earnhardt, Petty, and Yarborough EARNED their championships. NASCAR doesn't need 10 races to determine a champion. It needs all of them.
The Chase is nonsense and it only generates ratings not good, hard American racing.
 

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Well you can't spend the other 26 races picking your nose or you won't be in the chase period, which diminishes ALL of your chances at a championship. So I wouldn't really say it ALL depends on the last ten races. But most of it does.
 

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Old newz. The chase began when matt kenseth led the whole 2003 season standings (at one time by over 300 points) making teh championship boring.

...and because nascar wanted to help jimmy johnson win.


EDIT: idk. i liek the chase, but then again, when I look at the point standings I'm like yeah yeah thats gonna get all erased anyway. So it takes the suspense out of the whole season and gives it to the end of the season. What that a good idear? idk. you decide. i dont want to hurt my head any more today thinking.
 
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I swear I see a post just like the original in every second thread around here.

It's here to stay. Deal with it. The chase changes the game a little, and appreciate it for that fact please. While it could use some work, I'll agree with that, it's not exactly ruining the sport.
 

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Its here to stay, but it does not constitute good racing at all. People think that everybody in the Chase races too conservatively, but in reality, the seven races before the Chase, all those on the bubble are not running at their full potential because they dont wanna risk getting wrecked and not making the Chase. Thats about half the season in which the races are EXTREMELY boring because no one wants to use up their stuff going hard for wins, they would rather race conservatively just to say they made the Chase.
 

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Why don't people understand that there will be points racing under the old format too? Just because the format changes doesn't mean that people won't want to simply have a good points day when it gets closer to the end. Changing the format may make the first half of the season a bit more competitive, but towards the end you're going to see points racing. It will happen, whether you like it or not.
 

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Its here to stay, but it does not constitute good racing at all. People think that everybody in the Chase races too conservatively, but in reality, the seven races before the Chase, all those on the bubble are not running at their full potential because they dont wanna risk getting wrecked and not making the Chase. Thats about half the season in which the races are EXTREMELY boring because no one wants to use up their stuff going hard for wins, they would rather race conservatively just to say they made the Chase.

No offense, but I think u got things ass-backwards.

The chase lets people take risks because they don't have to worry about being 1st. They just can't be worse than 12th. Everyone knows where they stand and has a good idea whether they gonna make teh chase or not.

If you're 4th 19 races in, you can be sure you're gonna make the chase, so you can try to take risks. Because everything gets reset. In fact, its MORE reason to risk it to win because you get 10 points added to the chase for each win.

Without the chase, you would not get a clean slate so you have to get every point you can, so you can't risk any points.
 

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No offense, but I think u got things ass-backwards.

The chase lets people take risks because they don't have to worry about being 1st. They just can't be worse than 12th. Everyone knows where they stand and has a good idea whether they gonna make teh chase or not.

If you're 4th 19 races in, you can be sure you're gonna make the chase, so you can try to take risks. Because everything gets reset. In fact, its MORE reason to risk it to win because you get 10 points added to the chase for each win.

Without the chase, you would not get a clean slate so you have to get every point you can, so you can't risk any points.

No ones gonna be first anyway, as long as Johnson makes the Chase :err:

Anyway, the more I read your post the more I realize I was ass-backwards :twitcy:

All I'm saying is that if your a true old school NASCAR fan like from the 80's or 90's, chances are you dont like the Chase. Also, I'm sour grapes about the Chase anyway because under the old system Gordon woulda won two more championships. But it is what it is. You cant change what happened in '04 or '07.

But NASCAR is going to lose a lot of fans unless someone else other than Jimmie wins the title.
 

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And then Jimmie wins under the next system. And the next. And the next. Until eventually NASCAR creates a system where everybody starts 2000 points ahead of Johnson in the standings at Daytona. That 48 team is, at the present moment, bulletproof. They're even running hard at the start of the season. We can whine and moan about the chase all we want, but it's not going to change much. And you can't say that Driver1 woulda won the championship in 20XX, because with a different system people would have run differently.
 

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No ones gonna be first anyway, as long as Johnson makes the Chase :err:

Anyway, the more I read your post the more I realize I was ass-backwards :twitcy:

All I'm saying is that if your a true old school NASCAR fan like from the 80's or 90's, chances are you dont like the Chase. Also, I'm sour grapes about the Chase anyway because under the old system Gordon woulda won two more championships. But it is what it is. You cant change what happened in '04 or '07.

But NASCAR is going to lose a lot of fans unless someone else other than Jimmie wins the title.

he has enough. :confused:
 

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All I'm saying is that if your a true old school NASCAR fan like from the 80's or 90's, chances are you dont like the Chase. Also, I'm sour grapes about the Chase anyway because under the old system Gordon woulda won two more championships. But it is what it is. You cant change what happened in '04 or '07.

You do realize that everyone would have raced differently, do you?
 

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That was my original point. Drivers race differently when theres a Chase spot on the line.

And you missed his. Thus contradicting yourself. Gordon could very well have not won those 2 championships because of the nature of the points system.
 

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That was my original point. Drivers race differently when theres a Chase spot on the line.

No, I meant that everyone would have raced differently if the Chase hadn't existed.

I prefer the old one, but still...
 

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No, I meant that everyone would have raced differently if the Chase hadn't existed.

I prefer the old one, but still...

Oh. I see that now. I'm too lazy to read into things like that. Anyway, this is a discussion thatll go forever until people like me have to just forget the old system and accept the Chase.
 

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No matter the points system, JJ would dominate under it right now.

Also, JJ's luck is amazing (which you need in order to win championships)...the dude ought to go raid Vegas right now.
 

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I think the chase would be better if they were seeded by top-5's and top-10's.
 

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he has enough. :confused:

Considering most successful drivers race 20 years at least, only winning 4 championships, to me, doesn't sound like enough. Especially if those four championships all came within a 5 -6 year span. So, then you have around 15 years of driving in circles for a paycheck
 

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The chase is no differnt then the playoff in baseball, basketball, hockey. The teams that make it in the chase worked hard all season just like the teams that make the playoffs in any other sports
 
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