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Toyota speedway in Irwindale shuts down

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Jonathan Patten

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The track was a financial disaster from day one... the owners never really managed the funding correctly and it was just a mess with it's finances. Definitely sad to see it go though, as is any track lost....
 

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A true shame, but in this tough economy, there is no margin for error when it comes to finances and funding nowadays.

RIP Irwindale Speedway
 

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They just stated in Cup Practice that a combo east-west k&n series, North South modifieds, and some other races will be held in a 1/4 mile track in the run-off area on the super stretch at Daytona the Monday and Tuesday after Qualifying in NEXT years Speed-weeks!
 

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They just stated in Cup Practice that a combo east-west k&n series, North South modifieds, and some other races will be held in a 1/4 mile track in the run-off area on the super stretch at Daytona the Monday and Tuesday after Qualifying in NEXT years Speed-weeks!

4/10 not 1/14

Either way it's going to be basically Bowman Gray with longer straights & narrower turns & absolutely no banking. Which means it's going to be boring follow the leader train-racing, especially for the K&N cars.
 

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4/10 not 1/14

Either way it's going to be basically Bowman Gray with longer straights & narrower turns & absolutely no banking. Which means it's going to be boring follow the leader train-racing, especially for the K&N cars.

Holy pessimism Batman. You mind actually waiting until the race takes place before you write it off as 'boring'?
 

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Holy pessimism Batman. You mind actually waiting until the race takes place before you write it off as 'boring'?

I'm with this. Why the pessimism? Tough to make that kind of judgement when the track hasnt even been built yet, let alone a race being run.

I've seen some pretty awesome modified races at Bowman Gray. In fact, I could see this being the complete opposite of follow-the-leader and more like a Martinsville type race in which everyone is trading paint, using the chrome horn, and fighting for the bottom.
 

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Follow-the-leader racing, that statement is an oxymoron.
 

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Holy pessimism Batman. You mind actually waiting until the race takes place before you write it off as 'boring'?
I've actually spent time at a track that is pretty similar to this proposed Daytona track (.33 instead of .44 & the turns have a slightly wider radius then Daytona will have, but other then that they're identical) and the only class of cars that puts on anything near non-train racing is the Legends cars/Bandeleros.


I'm with this. Why the pessimism? Tough to make that kind of judgement when the track hasnt even been built yet, let alone a race being run.
The track is built, the only part that isn't built are the K-Rails that they're going to forklift into place to make the walls for the turns.



I've seen some pretty awesome modified races at Bowman Gray. In fact, I could see this being the complete opposite of follow-the-leader and more like a Martinsville type race in which everyone is trading paint, using the chrome horn, and fighting for the bottom.
I think you're over-estimating some things though.
-- Martinsville has banking, this Daytona track does not.
From wall to wall Bowman-Gray is 35ft wider then the proposed Daytona track, which means the straights are going to be longer then Bowman but the turns are going to be way tighter/slower with absolutely no hint of banking.

And that is if they use from inside retaining wall to outside retaining wall (240ft). The marketing diagram they put out shows the proposed track being solely on the run-off area which is only 180ft wide.


To put the tightness of that turn in perspective, the .25mi Dirt Track outside of Turn 1 (was a Grayhound track, they bought it and made it a dirt karting/moto track the other year) had a "wall to wall" (well no wall right along side track, so used racing surface) distance of 270ft.


Wall to Wall on the Superstretch = 240ft which tightens up the turns quite a bit (keep in mind this image is a .25mi track, straights will be longer on the .4mi track)


Inside Wall to Yellow Line (what they shown above in the announcement) = 180ft which makes extremely tight non-productive turns.


No matter how you slice it it's going to be a joke of a track that is going to produce crap racing, especially in the heavy K&N cars.
 

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Fisha695 said:
No matter how you slice it it's going to be a joke of a track that is going to produce crap racing, especially in the heavy K&N cars.

Fine, don't watch.
 

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Fine, don't watch.

I won't, and if I was a race fan in the area those two days I'd spend the night at either New Smyrna or Volusia. :p

If they really want short-track racing there is enough room on their property for them to build a proper short-track. What they're doing now is no different then setting up K-Rails in an oval in a store parking-lot and calling it a racetrack.

And if you wanna watch that well here ya go.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULU2dhywXNs]MasterCard Truck Series 2002, Estadio Azteca - YouTube[/ame]
XD
 
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